
Worklife with Adam Grant ReThinking: Raising a new generation of readers with Shannon Hale
The Butterfly Skirt Origin Story
- Shannon Hale's daughter declared 'princesses don't wear black' and imagined princesses as girls coming into power.
- Hale realized limiting princess roles limits girls' possibilities and set out to write versatile princess characters.
Rejection Letters Turned Into Teaching Tools
- Shannon Hale described years of rejection before publishing her first novel at 29 and eventually winning awards.
- She keeps rejection letters laminated to show kids that rejection is part of the journey.
Validate All Forms Of Reading
- Validate all formats of reading: graphic novels, audiobooks, fan fiction and comics count as reading.
- Avoid shaming kids for their preferences and match books to their learning styles.





































Shannon Hale is the author of more than 50 books for all ages, including the Princess Academy series and her graphic novel memoirs. In this episode, Adam and his daughter Joanna (a longtime fan of Shannon’s books) talk to Shannon about the powerful lessons books teach us about empathy, and take a closer look at how stories can either reinforce or dismantle the gender stereotypes kids learn early on. The three lament the decline in leisure reading, and brainstorm ways to nurture new readers and keep students interested in books.
Host & Guest
Adam Grant (Instagram: @adamgrant | LinkedIn: @adammgrant | Website: https://adamgrant.net/)
Shannon Hale (Instagram: @squeetus | Website: https://shannonhale.com/)
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