In this Grow, Scale, Master episode, Kon Stathopoulos and Josh Phegan expand on hunger and what really drives us. They look at how life stages, challenges and events affect people, how that's relatable to business and market cycles, and to developing that hunger that makes everything happen. They share the importance of knowing what drives us, excites us and makes us come alive, and also how to contain and direct your hunger productively. Josh describes his lessons for living from Kangaroo Island Health Retreat, Kon relates the power of extra potato cakes, and they ponder gratitude and the gift that exists in this moment.