

EP247 The Evolving CISO: From Security Cop to Cloud & AI Champion
Oct 13, 2025
29:00
Guest:
- David Gee, Board Risk Advisor, Non-Executive Director & Author, former CISO
Topics:
- Drawing from the "Aspiring CIO and CISO" book's focus on continuous improvement, how have you seen the necessary skills, knowledge, experience, and behaviors for a CISO evolve, especially when guiding an organization through a transformation?
- Could you share lessons learned about leadership and organizational resilience during such a critical period, and how does that experience reshape your approach to future transformations?
- Many organizations are undergoing transformations, often heavily involving cloud technologies. From your perspective, what is the most crucial—and perhaps often overlooked—role a CISO plays in ensuring security is an enabler, not a roadblock, during such large-scale changes?
- Have you ever seen a CISO who is a cloud champion for the organization?
- Your best advice for a CISO meeting cloud for the first time?
- What is your best advice for a CISO meeting AI for the first time?
- How do you balance the continuous self-improvement and development with the day-to-day pressures and responsibilities?
Resources:
- “A Day in the Life of a CISO: Personal Mentorship from 24+ Battle-Tested CISOs — Mentoring We Never Got” book
- “The Aspiring CIO and CISO: A career guide to developing leadership skills, knowledge, experience, and behavior” book
- EP201 Every CTO Should Be a CSTO (Or Else!) - Transformation Lessons from The Hoff
- EP101 Cloud Threat Detection Lessons from a CISO
- EP104 CISO Walks Into the Cloud: And The Magic Starts to Happen!
- EP129 How CISO Cloud Dreams and Realities Collide
- All CISO podcast episodes
- “Shadow Agents: A New Era of Shadow AI Risk in the Enterprise” blog
- “Blocking shadow agents won’t work. Here’s a more secure way forward” blog