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He quit Google & his 1st startup failed—but his 2nd grows at $1M ARR every 10 days. | Zach Llyod, Founder of Warp.dev

Oct 9, 2025
Zach Lloyd, a former Google principal engineer who led Google Docs, shares his rollercoaster journey from a failed photo-sharing app to the groundbreaking Warp.dev. He discusses the disillusionment of transitioning from Google’s user base to the stark reality of startup struggles. Zach emphasizes the importance of documented operating principles and building a product-focused team. He reveals how their pivot to AI-driven agentic development led to accelerated growth, achieving $1M ARR every 10 days and successfully navigating the competitive developer tools landscape.
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ANECDOTE

First Startup: A Photo App That Failed

  • Zach left Google in 2015 to build a photo-sharing iPhone app he admits the world didn't need.
  • The app got a few thousand users but taught him how many startup dimensions he had undervalued.
INSIGHT

Big-Company Comfort Masks GTM Reality

  • Working at huge companies like Google can mislead you about product distribution and go-to-market needs.
  • At startups the challenge is getting people to care, not just building features.
ADVICE

Choose Problems You Actually Care About

  • Pick a problem you deeply care about because startups are full of repeated failure.
  • Caring sustains you when default outcomes are rejection and things breaking.
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