Michael Lingelbach: Inside Hedra’s Agentic AI Revolution—Why Long-Form Video Is the Next Big Thing

Jan 16, 2025

Michael Lingelbach, the CEO and co-founder of Hedra, dives into the transformative potential of long-form generative video and agency AI solutions. He shares insights on how Hedra is redefining content creation for marketing and corporate training. Lingelbach emphasizes the need for engaging storytelling in today’s limited attention economy. He also discusses the ethical implications of automated content and the essential balance between efficiency and authenticity, highlighting how generative AI can enhance creativity rather than replace jobs.

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ANECDOTE

From Stanford PhD To Startup Founder

Michael Lingelbach left his Stanford PhD in 2023 to found Hydra and build on his media and theater background.
He learned company ops, hiring, and team management on the fly while turning research into a product.

INSIGHT

Long-Form Video Requires Cohesive Models

Long-form generative video needs models that maintain consistent identities and coherent dialogue over time.
Hydra focuses on improving core capabilities and embedding models into real enterprise workflows.

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Engagement, Not Volume, Is The Key Problem

Marketers' top problem shifted from production volume to audience engagement in an attention economy.
The priority now is creating high-quality, hookable content rather than just more content.

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On this episode of the Scouting For Growth podcast, Sabine VdL talks to Michael Lingelbach, CEO and co-founder of Hedra—a company that specializes in long-form generative video and agentic AI solutions. In just over a year, Michael and his team have seen explosive growth and raised backing from leading tech investors, including Index Ventures and Andreessen Horowitz.

From marketing and social media campaigns to corporate training videos, Hedra’s technology is revolutionizing how we produce immersive, human-like content at scale. Michael and I discuss the power of agentic AI, the ethical dimensions of automated digital creation, and how he’s charting new paths for startups, enterprises, and content creators alike.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

We’re still very early in ‘generative media’. Stable Diffusion came out 2 years ago for images, video models have been maturing rapidly, but right now they’re focused on small fragments of content not cohesive brand storytelling. Building models that can not only generate compelling dialogue performances, and incorporate consistent identities and assets is a challenging research problem and something we’re pushing on.
When people first think about generative AI they think about increasing the volume of content, but that typically isn’t a problem. The predominant concern of most marketers now is engagement. We live in a limited attention economy, so the focus now – in my opinion – is how to make really good content that’s going to hook people.
For short-form content you’re usually trying to hook the viewer’s attention in the first 5-10 seconds as they’re scrolling through Tik Tok style feed. You want bright colours, a crazy character or a hook like “OMG you’re not going to believe what we’re going to talk about today!” With long-form content you’re optimising for retention. You still want the viewer to be engaged, but usually they want information or entertainment.
We think the big opportunity is making it accessible for product/social marketing managers to have all this powerful technology to generate video and have a workflow were they’re working together with AI to make compelling content. That doesn’t require them to outsource to an external agency. We then get rapid feedback cycles rather than drawn out ones when you’re working with an external partner.

BEST MOMENTS

‘We’re focused on bringing this technology from something that’s fun to play with to something that’s a strong part of an enterprise/brand marketing workflow.’

‘Are you conveying information that makes the user feel like you’re conveying information that’s also usable for them? That’s the job of a content creator.’

‘Video is the most natural form of communication; people have been talking to each other face-to-face for a long time!’

‘Video is a massive market and it’s growing rapidly, it’s where most advertising, marketing information, learning and spending is shifting towards.’

ABOUT THE GUEST

Michael Lingelbach is the CEO and co-founder of Hedra. While pursuing his PhD at Stanford, Michael worked closely with world-renowned AI researchers and developed a deep interest in pushing the boundaries of long-form video generation.

Seeing an opportunity to combine advanced visual models with natural, human-centered dialogue, he set out to create a platform that produces fully generated video and immersive, conversational virtual avatars.

Under Michael’s leadership, Hedra attracted early backing from top-tier investors, including Index Ventures and Andreessen Horowitz. Since launching publicly in 2023, the company has grown its user base to over one million registered users, earning recognition from both independent creators and major enterprises.

Hedra’s generative video technology now powers cutting-edge use cases ranging from marketing and social media content to more complex interactive experiences.

ABOUT THE HOST

Sabine is a corporate strategist turned entrepreneur. She is the CEO and Managing Partner of Alchemy Crew a venture lab that accelerates the curation, validation, & commercialization of new tech business models. Sabine is renowned within the insurance sector for building some of the most renowned tech startup accelerators around the world working with over 30 corporate insurers, accelerated over 100 startup ventures. Sabine is the co-editor of the bestseller The INSURTECH Book, a top 50 Women in Tech, a FinTech and InsurTech Influencer, an investor & multi-award winner.