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AI Myths and Mythos with Eryk Salvaggio

Jan 8, 2025
Joined by Julien Laurens, a French football expert, the conversation heats up as they discuss the UEFA Nations League semifinalists: Spain, France, Portugal, and Germany. They delve into the controversial presence of Cristiano Ronaldo in Portugal’s lineup and celebrate the young star Lamine Yamal's stunning goal. Gab Marcotti critiques Italy's defense following their nail-biting loss to Germany. The lively debate also touches on the balance of experience versus youth in national teams and anticipates thrilling matchups ahead.
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Episode guests

Eryk Salvaggio articulates myths animating AI design, illustrates the nature of creativity and generated media, and artfully reframes the discourse on GenAI and art.   

Eryk joined Kimberly to discuss myths and metaphors in GenAI design; the illusion of control; if AI saves time and what for; not relying on futuristic AI to solve problems; the fallacy of scale; the dehumanizing narrative of human equivalence; positive biases toward AI; why asking ‘is the machine creative’ misses the mark; creative expression and meaning making; what AI generated art represents; distinguishing archives from datasets; curation as an act of care; representation and context in generated media; the Orwellian view of mass surveillance as anonymity; complicity and critique of GenAI tools; abstraction and noise; and what we aren’t doing when we use GenAI. 

 

Eryk Salvaggio is a new media artist, Visiting Professor in Humanities, Computing and Design at the Rochester Institute of Technology, and an Emerging Technology Research Advisor at the Siegel Family Endowment. Eryk is also a researcher on the AI Pedagogies Project at Harvard University’s metaLab and lecturer on Responsible AI at Elisava Barcelona School of Design and Engineering.  

 

Addition Resources:  

Cybernetic Forests:  mail.cyberneticforests.com 

The Age of Noise: https://mail.cyberneticforests.com/the-age-of-noise/ 

Challenging the Myths of Generative AI: https://www.techpolicy.press/challenging-the-myths-of-generative-ai/ 

 

A transcript of this episode is here

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Quick takeaways

  • Spain's emerging talents, like Laminya Mal and Pedri, highlight the pressure to maintain their status as a top football nation.
  • Cristiano Ronaldo's mixed performance underlines the need for Portugal to adapt their squad amidst concerns about his future role.

Deep dives

Spain Advances in Nail-Biter Against the Netherlands

Spain faced off against the Netherlands in a thrilling Nations League match that went to penalties after a hard-fought 2-2 draw in regulation and extra time. Despite Spain taking an early lead, the Netherlands showed resilience by equalizing on multiple occasions, forcing the game to penalties. Laminya Mal's standout performance included crucial goals, but his missed penalty ultimately contributed to the Dutch elimination. Pedri's pivotal role in scoring the winning penalty reflects Spain's high expectations following their recent success in international tournaments.

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