
The Drone Ultimatum Why True Drone Swarms Don't Exist Yet | Emma Bates
Nov 8, 2025
Emma Bates, co-founder and CEO of Cachai, dives into the complexities of true drone swarming. With a background in defense modernization, she explains why many so-called swarms, like light shows, don’t qualify and discusses how her team's software empowers distributed systems without a single point of failure. Emma elaborates on the challenges of achieving real-time consensus and the ethical implications of advanced autonomy in warfare. She also shares insights on government procurement and the potential for her technology in various sectors beyond defense.
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Distributed Architecture Is Required For Real Swarms
- True swarming requires distributed systems with no single point of failure rather than a queen-bee central controller.
- Achieving that needs consensus across nodes so the group stays operational if any node is killed.
Require Resilient, Cloud-Independent Systems
- Ask for distributed systems that avoid single points of failure and do not rely on cloud connectivity.
- Specify continuous agreement on time, location, mission and state among multiple computers.
Early Friends-And-Family Fundraising
- Kachai began with friends-and-family funding while the founders iterated product-market fit.
- Emma and her brother Jesse bootstrapped early work until defense demand emerged in 2025.








