Q&A on Ayn Rand’s Ethics with Dan Schwartz and Ziemowit Gowin
Sep 18, 2023
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Listen to Ziemowit Gowin and Dan Schwartz discuss ambition, rationality, the virtues, and the foundations of morality in Ayn Rand's ethics. They debunk the misconception that ambition is solely about financial success and explore the importance of aligning work with one's values. The podcast also delves into the difference between Ayn Rand's virtue of rationality and Aristotle's virtue of practical wisdom. They explore the concept of choosing to live and discuss a hypothetical ethical dilemma.
Ambition should be directed towards constant improvement and aligning with one's values in order to be moral.
Rand's virtue of rationality goes beyond practical wisdom, encompassing a broader understanding of reality and pursuing values.
Rand's identification of seven virtues ensures clarity and practicality in implementing a moral code, with other virtues being derivative or overlapping.
Deep dives
Ambition and its implications for one's career and central purpose in life
Ambition can be moral or immoral, depending on what one is ambitious for. Rand defines ambition as the systematic pursuit of achievement and improvement in relation to one's goals. Ambition is important because it keeps one moving forward in life and directs them towards constant improvement. However, ambition in one's career should not solely focus on external markers of success, but also on evaluating how the job serves one's overall values and purpose in life.
The distinction between Rand's virtue of rationality and Aristotelian virtue of practical wisdom
Rand's virtue of rationality encompasses not only practical wisdom but also the pursuit of truth and the consistent use of reason in all aspects of one's life. Practical wisdom, on the other hand, is an Aristotelian virtue that focuses on deliberation and determining the best course of action in moral decision-making. While both virtues acknowledge the role of reason, Rand's rationality goes beyond means-end reasoning, encompassing a broader understanding of grasping reality and pursuing values.
The seven virtues in objectivism and the possibility of an eighth virtue
Rand's ethics identifies seven virtues: rationality, honesty, independence, justice, integrity, productiveness, and pride. While Rand does not claim that these virtues are exhaustive, one would need a compelling reason to add another virtue. Examining common candidates such as generosity or fidelity, they can be seen as derivative or overlapping with existing virtues. Additionally, having a concise and memorable number of virtues ensures clarity and practicality in implementing a moral code.
The choice to live and its implications for moral responsibility
The choice to live is fundamental in morality, as it forms the basis for moral principles and action. While the choice to live can be seen as pre-moral, it is essential in shaping an individual's ethical framework. The choice to live is an ongoing commitment to one's existence and requires consistent effort to align one's actions with life-affirming values. Morality applies to those who choose to live, and it provides guidance in pursuing values and achieving happiness.
The role of emergency situations in ethical decision-making
Emergency situations or unique dilemmas should not be the basis for deriving moral principles. Such situations are exceptional and do not provide a solid foundation for a comprehensive ethical framework. Ethical principles are designed to guide individuals in their everyday lives, providing a set of values that can be consistently applied. While judgment calls may be required in emergencies, considering non-sacrificial assistance whenever possible can be a reasonable approach, but it ultimately depends on the specifics of the situation and one's personal judgment.
Conclusion
This podcast episode addressed various questions related to IWANTS ethics. It explored topics such as ambition and its relevance to one's career, the distinction between Rand's virtue of rationality and Aristotelian practical wisdom, the existence and potential expansion of the seven virtues in objectivism, the choice to live as a fundamental pre-moral decision, and the role of emergency situations in ethical decision-making. The discussion aimed to provide insights into IWANTS ethical principles and their application in different contexts.
In this episode of New Ideal Live, Dan Schwartz and Ziemowit Gowin answer reader-submitted questions about Ayn Rand’s Objectivist ethics.
Among the topics covered:
What are Ayn Rand’s thoughts on ambition in career?How ambition can be moral or immoral depending on the goals pursued;Career ambition versus second-handedly chasing salary increases and promotions;
Career ambition in the context of pursuing values generally, including non-career values.
How does Rand’s virtue of rationality differ from Aristotle’s virtue of practical wisdom?Practical wisdom as the ability to deliberate well about how to act rightly in a given situation;
Why Rand does not divide virtues into intellectual and ethical virtues.
Why did Rand name seven virtues, and could there be more?Why some purported virtues are not virtues at all, and others, such as courage, are aspects of virtues Rand identified;
Why any additional virtues, even if valid, would not be part of Objectivism — i.e., Rand’s own philosophy.
Why choose to live, and is this a moral choice?How morality provides guidance for living and is only useful for someone who chooses to live;Why the choice to live is an ongoing series of choices embodied in the act of pursuing values;How we experience life as an end-in-itself, and why the choice to live is not groundless;
The sense in which morality applies to everyone, even though some do not choose to live.
Should I risk my dream job to save a life?Why ethics is not primarily about resolving emergency scenarios;
When, and why, you can properly offer non-sacrificial help to others.
Mentioned in this podcast and relevant to the discussion are “The Objectivist Ethics,” “Tax Credits for Education,” “The Ethics of Emergencies,” and “Causality Versus Duty” by Ayn Rand; Ayn Rand’s Normative Ethics: The Virtuous Egoist by Tara Smith; Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand by Leonard Peikoff; and “Q&A on the Best Objections to Objectivism,” a previous episode of New Ideal Live.
This episode was recorded on September 11, 2023. Listen to the discussion below. Listen and subscribe from your mobile device on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify or Stitcher. Watch archived podcasts here.
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