This podcast episode featuring Warren Laine-Naida shares a discussion on off-page SEO, arguing that it has become more important than on-page efforts in the current digital landscape. The guest speaker suggests that with the rise of AI-powered search results and increasing use of social media for discovery, focusing solely on website optimization is an outdated approach. Instead, he emphasizes the value of being cited and mentioned across various platforms, highlighting the importance of conversational SEO and optimizing for where people are actually finding information.