[The UFO Rabbit Hole] An Interview with Jay Christopher King: Experiencers & Disclosure
Aug 18, 2023
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Jay Christopher King discusses encounters with non-human intelligence, childhood experiences with light beings, experience with AG1 nutrition supplement, strange orbs and memory disputes, challenges of being an experiencer, and resources and books for support and disclosure.
Building a supportive community for discussing anomalous encounters is crucial for individuals to navigate the challenges and uncertainties they face.
Disclosure should go beyond the military and pilots' perspectives, and include the experiencer community's stories and the implications of non-human entity contact on personal boundaries and cultural perspectives.
Understanding and accepting the complexities of the disclosure process, including curated information and the potential impact on individuals' beliefs and society as a whole, is essential.
Deep dives
Early Encounters and Haunted House
The speaker shares early experiences, starting with encountering two light beings in their bedroom at the age of four. They experience a sense of love and receive a message from the beings. They later move to a different house that exhibits haunted activity, including ghost figures and poltergeist phenomena. The speaker's parents divorce, and the activity in the house continues. The speaker also mentions encounters with orbs and strange beings in their teenage years and early twenties, which seem to follow them regardless of location.
Challenges and Coping Mechanisms
The speaker discusses the challenges of balancing these anomalous experiences with daily life responsibilities. They mention struggling with focus, substance abuse, and strained relationships with friends and partners. The speaker also expresses concerns about the impact of their experiences on potential romantic relationships, family life, and navigating ethical dilemmas regarding disclosure. They highlight the different ways people perceive and respond to these encounters, and note that some individuals have positive and magical experiences, while others face more fear and doubt.
Varying Reactions and Emotions
Reflecting on their experiences and interactions with others in the same community, the speaker acknowledges the range of emotions and reactions people have to anomalous encounters. Some individuals dismiss or deny these experiences, while others feel fear or are deeply impacted by them. The speaker emphasizes the importance of creating a supportive community, where people can openly discuss their encounters without judgment or skepticism. They highlight the diversity of experiences and the value of learning from others' perspectives.
Seeking Understanding and Integration
The speaker admits that seeking understanding and integration of these experiences can be challenging. They share personal struggles with disassociating, difficulty reading books, and disorientation caused by encounters. They also mention the benefits of building connections with others who have had similar experiences and the relief of finding a community that supports and understands. The speaker underscores the ongoing nature of the mystery and the quest for answers, and expresses gratitude for those who are willing to openly explore and discuss these topics.
The Third Reality: Navigating Consensus Reality and Private Experiences
The podcast episode explores the concept of a third reality that emerges with the ongoing disclosure movement. This third reality exists between the consensus reality of everyday life and the private experiences of individuals who have encountered non-human intelligence. The episode highlights the complexities of disclosure and acknowledges that the information shared by the government might not be pure and unadulterated. The discussion emphasizes the need for a nuanced understanding of the disclosure process, recognizing the challenges faced by those involved and the necessity of curated information to facilitate public acceptance.
The Implications of Disclosure and the National Security Aspect
The episode delves into the implications of disclosure beyond the military and pilots' perspectives. It emphasizes that the experiencer community and their stories are often left out of the conversation surrounding national security. The discussion explores the need to address the security implications of non-human entity contact, especially when they occur within people's homes, violating the sense of safety and personal boundaries. The episode encourages a deeper exploration of the disclosure process, beyond surface-level narratives, and highlights the importance of understanding the potential impact on individuals' beliefs, cultural perspectives, and the wider implications for society as a whole.
This week’s episode barely felt like work because this week I sat down with my dear friend, and one of my favorite people, Jay Christopher King. Jay is the cofounder and director of The Experiencer Group, a private online community dedicated to support, curiosity & community for people who’ve had anomalous events of all kinds. He is also the co-founder of the phenomenal Inquire Anomalous conference series in NYC along with James Iandoli.
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