The podcast discusses The New York Times' lawsuit against OpenAI and Microsoft for copyright infringement, the challenges in funding and legal issues for AI chatbots, the debate over iMessage and Android users, the development of a universal chat app called Beeper, and the vision for seamless communication. The hosts also share their tech resolutions for the new year and discuss organizing phone screens and setting tech goals.
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The New York Times has sued OpenAI for copyright infringement, sparking a debate about fair use in AI training and its impact on copyrighted materials.
Beeper's CEO discusses their efforts to bring the iMessage experience to Android users, highlighting the clash between open communication and Apple's walled garden approach.
Setting realistic tech resolutions focused on positive changes and finding a balance between digital habits and being present in the offline world is crucial for taking control of technology use.
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The New York Times sues OpenAI and Microsoft for copyright infringement
The New York Times has filed a lawsuit against OpenAI and Microsoft, claiming that they used millions of copyrighted New York Times articles in the training of AI models. The lawsuit argues that the AI models created by OpenAI and Microsoft, such as chat GPT and Bing copilot, reproduce and store copyrighted works without permission or payment, posing a threat to the New York Times' journalism and brand. The case highlights the debate around fair use in the context of AI and copyright law, and the potential impact on the future use of copyrighted materials in AI training.
Beeper CEO discusses iMessage hack for Android users
Eric Mijikovsky, the CEO of Beeper, joins the podcast to discuss how his company hacked iMessage to bring the blue bubble experience to Android users. Mijikovsky explains that Beeper Mini, a Jailbroken iPhone paired with a Mac Mini server farm, enables Android users to send encrypted messages to iPhone users, enhancing the user experience. However, Apple has updated iMessage several times to block Beeper Mini, citing concerns about security and spam. The discussion delves into the clash between open communication and walled garden approaches, and the challenges faced by Beeper in creating a seamless, encrypted messaging experience for users.
Reflecting on past tech resolutions and setting new goals for 2024
The hosts discuss their previous tech resolutions and set new goals for the year ahead. They acknowledge the challenges in maintaining resolutions related to reducing phone usage or controlling technology habits. They emphasize the importance of setting realistic goals and focusing on positive changes rather than strict resolutions. In the spirit of taking control of tech use, they propose setting tech-related goals for 2024, such as establishing healthier digital habits, taking regular tech breaks, or finding a balance between being connected and being present in the offline world.
The business model dilemma for the generative AI industry
The podcast episode explores the question of whether the generative AI industry can survive if training AI models on copyrighted material is deemed illegal. The speaker believes that deals will be worked out, as seen with the emergence of ad-supported business models. AI chatbots, for example, can provide a platform for advertising. However, it may become challenging for new models to emerge, especially for the open-source community, as they lack funding for legal teams and licensing partnerships. Despite the challenges, the speaker remains optimistic about finding a way forward for the AI industry.
The Apple iMessage debate: Green bubbles vs. blue bubbles
The podcast episode discusses the divide between Android and iPhone users in the context of Apple's iMessage. The speaker highlights how the blue bubble of iMessage has become a status symbol, while the green bubble of Android messages is seen as undesirable. The speaker explores the challenges of interoperability between iMessage and Android messages and the pressure Apple is facing to open up its platform. The episode also mentions a company called Beeper, which attempted to enable Android users to send iMessages but faced resistance from Apple. This debate raises questions about Apple's control over its walled garden and the need for more open systems.
The New York Times sued OpenAI and Microsoft last week for copyright infringement. Kevin Roose and Casey Newton walk through the lawsuit and discuss the stakes for news publishers. Then, they talk about Apple’s “walled garden,” which is facing threats from both regulators and 16-year-olds. Finally, we set our tech resolutions for the new year.
Today’s guest: Eric Migicovsky, co-founder of Beeper