

Spectator Out Loud: Tim Shipman, Colin Freeman, Rachel Clarke, Michael Gove & Melanie Ferbreach
Sep 6, 2025
Colin Freeman, a writer for The Spectator, discusses the struggles of foreign fighters in Ukraine, raising questions about the West's commitment to their cause. Rachel Clarke delves into the urgent issue of antimicrobial resistance while reviewing Liam Shaw's book on antibiotics, drawing attention to the severe impacts of bacterial infections. The conversation also touches on Brexit-related themes and the playful exploration of invented languages, showcasing a broad spectrum of intriguing ideas and insights.
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Use State Levers To Prioritise Deportations
- Suspend visas, end foreign aid and use every lever of the state to remove illegal migrants, Jenrick recommends.
- He urges detaining asylum seekers in rudimentary camps and reforming judicial powers to enable removals.
Migration As Cultural And Service Pressure
- Robert Jenrick argues both illegal and legal migration must be sharply reduced to give the country 'breathing space'.
- He frames migration as a cultural and public-service pressure, not only an economic issue.
Dover Visit That Radicalised Jenrick
- Jenrick recounts seeing migrants in Dover estates entering gardens and kitchens, which radicalised his view on migration policy.
- He says local anger showed Westminster elites were out of touch with working people.