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The China Challenge, With Liza Tobin and Jake Werner (Election 2024, Episode 6)

Oct 22, 2024
Liza Tobin, a senior director for economy at the Special Competitive Studies Project, and Jake Werner, acting director at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, dive deep into the complexities of U.S.-China relations. They discuss the shift from engagement to rivalry and the historical misjudgments of the U.S. regarding China. The duo examines China's quest for global dominance and the balance of power under Xi Jinping. Key insights on navigating these challenges for future U.S. policy highlight the need for cooperation despite systemic tensions.
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Quick takeaways

  • The U.S.-China relationship has evolved into a systemic rivalry, necessitating a strategic shift in American foreign policy towards candid confrontation rather than idealistic engagement.
  • Despite the existing potential for cooperation on global challenges, entrenched distrust and contrasting political ideologies hinder meaningful engagement between the two nations.

Deep dives

Understanding U.S.-China Relations

The current relationship between the United States and China is characterized as a systemic rivalry, suggesting significant competition that is more intense than mere rivalry. This perspective emphasizes that both nations are not just competing but are engaged in a complex geopolitical struggle where each views the other as a primary obstacle to their ambitions. The dialogue reflects a shift from the U.S.'s earlier policy of strategic engagement, which aimed to integrate China into the global order, to a recognition of China's long-term aim of asserting itself as a global power. This transition highlights fundamental ideological differences between the U.S. and the Chinese Communist Party, particularly in governance and international relations.

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