"When you're a little kid, sometimes people say, 'What do you want to be when you grow up?' And it's about like, 'I want to be this, I want to be that.' And I think often the most meaning comes from a different question, which is...what problem do you want to solve in the world? Your pain often turns into purpose. So I ask people to find a combination between what lights you up, and what breaks your heart."
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The Cathy Heller Podcast with Cathy Heller