How great to connect with another Sarno OG! Karen, like me, sat across from Dr. Sarno in his iconic office at The Rusk Center for Rehabilitation at NYU/Langone in New York City back in the day when he was still in practice. His confident and unapologetic style was the inspiration for everything I do and teach, and Karen is right there with me. I have been hearing from Karen for years, as although Sarno was her intro to this work, she credits my contributions for taking her to the next level of wellness. Today we talk about her inspiring story, as well as dive into a bit of a Real Time Heal around her persistent symptoms of allergies and nasal congestion. Over the years (and in several interviews here on the pod) I've heard many people recount having terrible allergies only to connect them to TMS and have them resolve completely! It's such good stuff. Enjoy this powerful conversation! XO n.

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