Dive into the philosophical clash between Epicurean pleasure-seeking and Stoic virtue amid the chaos of Cicero's time. Explore Cicero's insightful critiques and the nuanced debate on the nature of happiness. Delve into the ethical implications of pursuing pleasure versus self-sacrifice, and examine how these philosophies define friendship and community. Unpack what it truly means to seek well-being, as Epicureanism contrasts with Stoicism on the path to a fulfilling life.
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Greatness Through Suffering
Cicero points out that many admired figures led difficult, painful lives.
Their greatness stemmed from enduring hardship, not maximizing pleasure.
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Torquatus' Ancestor
Cicero cites an ancestor of Torquatus who executed his own son for breaking rank.
He questions if this act, upholding discipline, aimed for pleasure.
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Beyond Pleasure and Pain
Tremblay suggests Epicureans confuse doing what one thinks is best with maximizing pleasure.
He argues for a broader value system beyond pleasure and pain.
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Cicero's "On Ends" (De finibus bonorum et malorum) is a comprehensive exploration of ethical theories prevalent in ancient Rome. It presents a dialogue between Cicero and two Epicureans, examining the nature of the highest good. The work delves into the contrasting views of Epicureanism, which emphasizes pleasure, and Stoicism, which prioritizes virtue. Cicero's own perspective, influenced by both schools, emerges throughout the dialogue. The book remains a significant contribution to understanding ancient ethical thought and its enduring relevance.
In 45 BC, amid the turmoil of the Roman Civil War, Cicero wrote one of philosophy's most important works on the meaning of life. This episode unpacks Book I of "On Ends," exploring the clash between Epicurean pleasure-seeking and Stoic virtue.
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