Good Times with rich & REGULAR | Julien and Kiersten Saunders | 145

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Jun 1, 2025

Join Julien and Kiersten Saunders, the dynamic duo behind rich & REGULAR, as they share their transformative journey in personal finance and entrepreneurship. Julien reveals why he left a stable corporate job before reaching 'FU money,' while Kiersten recounts her Valentine’s Day resignation amidst the pandemic. They dive into redefining financial independence and the joys of parenting an eight-year-old who bonds with seniors. With powerful anecdotes and insights on fostering meaningful money conversations, they inspire listeners to reclaim their financial autonomy.

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ANECDOTE

Credit Debt Sparks Relationship Growth

Julien Saunders confronted Kiersten Saunders about her credit card debt, causing conflict in their relationship.
This confrontation sparked transparency and growth, leading them to overcome money differences together.

INSIGHT

Money Fights Are a Dance

Couples fight over money like a dance, with each listening to different emotional "songs."
Emotional attunement helps partners synchronize their conversations and progress.

ADVICE

15-Year Career Financial Sprint

Treat your career as a 15-year sprint, broken into three five-year phases focused on debt, investing, and alternative income.
Build financial security gradually to enable risk-taking and personal growth later.

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In this episode we are joined by Julien and Kiersten Saunders, co-creators of rich & REGULAR and authors of 'Cashing Out: Win the Wealth Game by Walking Away'. What started as a blog in 2017 has grown into a multimedia powerhouse, all centered around their mission… to inspire better conversations about money. Hear why Julien walked out of corporate life before he had 'FU money,' and how Kiersten's Valentine's Day resignation collided with the pandemic. They also talk to us about:

Their 15-year 'Cashing Out' career sprint
The power of 'Money on the Table' (think Anthony Bourdain meets FIRE)
The joy of raising an eight-year-old who calls 78-year-olds his besties
A reminder that aiming for the heart—rather than the wallet—can turn any late start into a blockbuster finale

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