
Catching Up to FI
A mindset, money, and life podcast for late starters catching up to Financial Independence.
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May 18, 2025 • 59min
Borderless FI: Australian Paramedic Healing Her Own Trauma | Tasch Rogers | 143
Aussie paramedic-turned-life-coach Tasch Rogers joins us to unpack the head-on crash that shattered her body, her finances—and ultimately her limiting beliefs. After a 30-year career as a first responder, she had to leave it all behind and start over. She became intimately familiar with the effects of trauma and PTSD, having personally navigated through her own healing journey. Now as a life coach with expertise in holistic modalities and various other disciplines, she helps others using a warm, compassionate, and non-judgmental approach. ***Trigger Warning: This episode includes discussions of mental health issues such as PTSD and suicide. These topics may be difficult for some listeners. If you need support, please consider reaching out to a trusted friend, professional, or crisis resource. Take care of yourself and listen at your own pace. 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website 🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee" 🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question ===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== 🎓 Student Loan Planner: Get a custom student loan plan from our CFP®, CFA and CSLP® professionals. They charge a one-time fee for their thorough review. Our listeners receive $100 off a 1:1 consult using the link below. Flat fee is normally $595, but after your $100 off ‘Catching Up to FI’ discount, it's $495. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link: studentloanplanner.com/catchingup 📈 Boldin (formerly NewRetirement): Retirement planning software that's like having a financial advisor at your fingertips. You can get started with the free version or choose the premium option (PlannerPlus) and get a 14-day free trial. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link to get started: Go.boldin.com/catchingup Personal Finance Club: Use code CUTOFI to get $30 OFF any course or PFC investing course only Nectarine: Advice-Only and Flat-Fee Hourly Fiduciary Financial Advisors (Catching Up to FI will be compensated by Nectarine if you use our affiliate link, which creates an incentive and conflict of interest. We are not current clients or employees of Nectarine.) For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐Tasch's Transformational Teachings Charity: Kids with Cancer Foundation (Australia) Real Talk Finance (Amy Coroso) The Happy Saver (New Zealand) EconoMe Conference FI Freedom Retreat ⏰ ‘Catching Up to FI’ Episodes The Father of Financial Life Planning (Part 1) | George Kinder | 140 The Three Kinder Questions (Part 2) | George Kinder | 141 Avocado Toast & Guardians of the Galaxy | Amy Coroso | 018 Thunder Down Under | Late Starter Fire | 004 If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you! ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

May 14, 2025 • 1h 2min
Smart Money Moves After 50 | Bill Yount | 142
Bill hops onto Jesse Cramer's 'Personal Finance for Long-Term Investors' (formally The Best Interest) podcast to spread the message that it's never too late to start. In this episode he shares: The messy, shame-to-FI journey that inspired Catching Up to FI His three-step "Pause-Plan-Pivot" playbook His trademark mix of candor, nerdy humor, and high-five optimism 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website 🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee" 🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question ===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== 🎓 Student Loan Planner: Get a custom student loan plan from our CFP®, CFA and CSLP® professionals. They charge a one-time fee for their thorough review. Our listeners receive $100 off a 1:1 consult using the link below. Flat fee is normally $595, but after your $100 off ‘Catching Up to FI’ discount, it's $495. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link: studentloanplanner.com/catchingup 📈 Boldin (formerly NewRetirement): Retirement planning software that's like having a financial advisor at your fingertips. You can get started with the free version or choose the premium option (PlannerPlus) and get a 14-day free trial. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link to get started: Go.boldin.com/catchingup Personal Finance Club: Use code CUTOFI to get $30 OFF any course or PFC investing course only Nectarine: Advice-Only and Flat-Fee Hourly Fiduciary Financial Advisors (Catching Up to FI will be compensated by Nectarine if you use our affiliate link, which creates an incentive and conflict of interest. We are not current clients or employees of Nectarine.) For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐 Personal Finance For Long-Term Investors with Jesse Cramer ⏰ ‘Catching Up to FI’ Episodes Pathfinders: Stories of Success and Financial Independence | JL Collins | 069 Pathfinders: Triumphs and Trials on the Road to Financial Independence | JL Collins | 070 F-You Money Part 1 | JL Collins | 023 F-You Money Part 2 | JL Collins | 024 If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you! ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

May 11, 2025 • 54min
The Three Kinder Questions (Part 2) | George Kinder | 141
George Kinder is the pioneering mind behind Life Planning and founder of the Kinder Institute. He joins us for the second half of our enlightening conversation about the essence of financial freedom from last week. George is best known as the Father of Life Planning and creator of The Three Kinder Questions that probe deeper into our hopes, dreams, and fears. This episode brings you: The real meaning behind the Kinder Questions A little live therapy session with Bill & Jackie as they share thier answers to the Kinder Questions The EVOKE life‑planning process (Exploration – Vision – Obstacles – Knowledge – Execution) The Three Domains of Freedom: the freedom of each moment, the freedom to live one's life purpose, and the freedom of civilization 'The Freedom Song' — written and performed by George Kinder & his daughter London Kinder Be sure to go back and listen to last week's episode 140 to catch the first part of our conversation with George Kinder. 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website 🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee" 🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question ===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== 🎓 Student Loan Planner Get a custom student loan plan from our CFP®, CFA and CSLP® professionals. They charge a one-time fee for their thorough review. Our listeners receive $100 off a 1:1 consult using the link below. Flat fee is normally $595, but after your $100 off ‘Catching Up to FI’ discount, it's $495. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link: studentloanplanner.com/catchingup For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐George Kinder website Freedom Song || London and George Kinder Kinder Institute of Life Planning Youtube The Three Questions presented by George Kinder Fiduciary In All Things (FIAT) A Golden Civilization Find a Life Planner Do your own life plan NAPFA (National Association of Personal Financial Advisors) 📗 The Three Domains of Freedom 📕 A Golden Civilization and The Map of Mindfulness 📚 The Seven Stages of Money Maturity 📗 Life Planning for You: How to Design & Deliver the Life of Your Dreams 📕Lighting the Torch ⏰ ‘Catching Up to FI’ Episodes The Father of Financial Life Planning (Part 1) | George Kinder | 140 Vote Your Money: Values Aligned Investing | Janine Firpo | 139 If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you! ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

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May 4, 2025 • 1h 4min
The Father of Financial Life Planning (Part 1) | George Kinder | 140
In this enlightening discussion, George Kinder, founder of the Kinder Institute and the Father of Life Planning, shares his transformative insights on financial maturity and life alignment. He emphasizes the importance of living in the present for achieving true freedom. Kinder also introduces The Three Kinder Questions, encouraging listeners to envision their meaningful goals. The conversation explores personal journey narratives, the interplay of finances and life purpose, and how mindfulness can facilitate a deeper connection to our aspirations.

Apr 27, 2025 • 1h 14min
Vote Your Money: Values Aligned Investing | Janine Firpo | 139
Today on the show we welcome Janine Firpo, an accomplished speaker, author, and social entrepreneur, dedicated to empowering women through values-aligned investing. She has a relentless drive to make a difference and poured it all into her book, 'Activate Your Money: Invest to Grow Your Wealth and Build a Better World'. In this episode, you will learn: How Janine transitioned from a lucrative career in big tech to impact investing The importance of aligning financial goals with social values How to integrate ethical considerations into your investment portfolio Practical steps you can take to manage your finances ethically and effectively 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website 🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee" 🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question ===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== MyBudgetCoach A zero-based budgeting app that allows you to connect your banks, categorize your transactions, and work with a certified budget coach at your own pace. Receive 10% off subscription costs by entering code: Catchingup Boston Institute of Finance CFP® level curriculum for those that don’t need course credit, but want to gain useful knowledge for personal development. Special pricing for self-paced and instructor lead 'Personal Growth Track' course or package. Receive 5% off by entering code: Catchingup For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐Invest For Better Free membership in Invest for Better Circle experience for Black women 📗Book: Activate Your Money Activate Your Money Janine's Talk at EconoMe 2025 As Your Sow | Invest your values BetterInvesting.org | Educating individual investors and investment clubs Mighty Deposits | Find banking that matches your values Circle experience for Black women 📗Book: Your Money or Your Life 📗Book: The Beardstown Ladies' Common-Sense Investment Guide Lynn Frair EconoMe Talk ⏰ ‘Catching Up to FI’ Episodes Doña Quixote, Life Energy, and The Coming of Aging | Vicki Robin | 94 Enoughness: Your Life or Your Money | Vicki Robin | 95 Money for the Rest of Us | David Stein | 041 The pURPOSE Code | Jordan Grumet | 115 Purpose, Identity, & Connection | Jordan Grumet | 022 If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you! ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Apr 23, 2025 • 58min
Catching Up to FI in Uncertain Times | Bill & Jackie | 138
In this episode, Bill & Jackie joined Doc G (Jordan Grumet) on the 'Earn & Invest Podcast' to talk about what it feels like to be a late starter in these uncertain times. Questions about a recession are looming and it's scary, especially for those just waking up and trying to catch up. They discuss the ups and downs and how late starters can still stay on track. 🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee" 🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question === DEALS AND DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== Personal Finance Club: Use code CUTOFI to get $30 OFF any course or PFC investing course only Nectarine: Advice-Only and Flat-Fee Hourly Fiduciary Financial Advisors (Catching Up to FI will be compensated by Nectarine if you use our affiliate link, which creates an incentive and conflict of interest. We are not current clients or employees of Nectarine.) For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) The Earn & Invest Podcast Scott Trench- Bigger Pockets Book- F.I.R.E. For Dummies FI Freedom Retreats ⏰ ‘Catching Up to FI’ Episodes Bonus Episode: The Market is Crashing, Now What? | Bill & Jackie | 135 International Educator, Bali FIRE | Amy Minkley | 137 The pURPOSE Code | Jordan Grumet | 115 Purpose, Identity, & Connection | Jordan Grumet | 022 “The Risk Parity Paradox” an Exercise in Simple Complexity? | Frank Vasquez | 124 SpongeBob and Drawdown Strategies | Frank Vasquez | 044 If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you! ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Apr 20, 2025 • 55min
International Educator, Bali FIRE | Amy Minkley | 137
Amy Minkley is the founder of FI Freedom Retreats, a passion project that was born out of her love and gratitude for the F.I.R.E. (Financial Independence, Retire Early) movement and community. In this episode, she shares her journey to achieving financial independence (FI) while living in Bali, Indonesia. Amy gives us a glimpse into her lavish yet affordable lifestyle, spending only $30k a year. She details her frugal upbringing, early teaching career in Japan, and subsequent well-paid international teaching positions that allowed her to save aggressively. The episode also highlights Amy's contributions to the local Balinese community through the FI Freedom Retreats, aimed at educating and bringing together the FI community in Asia. 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website 🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee" 🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question ===DEALS AND DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== Personal Finance Club: Use code CUTOFI to get $30 OFF any course or PFC investing course only Nectarine: Advice-Only and Flat-Fee Hourly Fiduciary Financial Advisors (Catching Up to FI will be compensated by Nectarine if you use our affiliate link, which creates an incentive and conflict of interest. We are not current clients or employees of Nectarine.) For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐Website- FI Freedom Retreats Facebook Instagram Amy’s CampFI Talk Charity: PKP Women’s Centre EconoMe Conference FI Friends Travel CampFI 📗Book: Your Money or Your Life (Vicki Robin & Joe Dominguez) IRS Foreign Tax Credit ⏰ ‘Catching Up to FI’ Episodes Doña Quixote, Life Energy, and The Coming of Aging | Vicki Robin | 94 Enoughness: Your Life or Your Money | Vicki Robin | 95 Mr 4% is now Mr 5% | Bill Bengen | 111 Stories, Hacks, & Tribes | Brad Barrett | 021 Leaning Out: Cracking the Burnout Code | Dawn Baker | 119 Stories, Hacks, & Tribes | Brad Barrett | 021 Weathering Financial Storms | Kristen Knapp | 114 Twin Wins with the Baughier Brothers: CampFI, EAGLE Cohousing, and Fiology | David & Stephen Baughier | 089 If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you! ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Apr 16, 2025 • 43min
Our Team is Growing: Welcome Patrick! | Patrick McDonnal | 136
We're excited to introduce you to our newest 'Catching Up to FI' team member, Patrick McDonnal. In this episode, you'll get to hear some of his money story and how he'll be helping with the show. Patrick discusses his career transition from engineering to financial planning and openly shares how the early financial education he got from his grandfather helped shape his journey. We're also celebrating with Patrick because he just sat for the very challenging, CFP Exam in March and got a preliminary 'Pass'. He is now well on his way to earning his Certified Financial Planner credential. 🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee" 🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question === DEALS AND DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== Personal Finance Club: Use code CUTOFI to get $30 OFF any course or PFC investing course only Nectarine: Advice-Only and Flat-Fee Hourly Fiduciary Financial Advisors (Catching Up to FI will be compensated by Nectarine if you use our affiliate link, which creates an incentive and conflict of interest. We are not current clients or employees of Nectarine.) For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) FPA NexGen Leadership CASHFLOW Game George Kinder / Life Planning ChooseFI 📗 Choose FI: Your Blueprint to Financial Independence Chris Mamula EconoMe Conference Personal Finance Club ⏰ ‘Catching Up to FI’ Episodes George Kinder (coming in May) The Powers of Starting Late, Retirement Calculators, and More | Chris Mamula | 086 Simplicity, Empathy, Leadership, Robots, Oh My! | Jeremy Schneider | 056 Stories, Hacks, & Tribes | Brad Barrett | 021 Find Your Camino | Diania Merriam | 029 If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you! ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Apr 13, 2025 • 1h 30min
How to Bake a Cake: An Asset Allocation Mashup | Rick Ferri & Paul Merriman | 134
Joining us on this episode is not just one, but TWO titans in the investing and financial literacy space, Rick Ferri and Paul Merriman. These two great minds go head-to-head on topics like asset allocation, and the risks/rewards of small cap value funds vs. total stock market funds. Through this high energy debate, they also provide expert insights into the various stages of your investing journey. Rick and Paul both share how they empower investors through their platforms and continue their relentless mission of spreading financial education. 🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee" 🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question === DEALS AND DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== 🎓 Student Loan Planner Get a custom student loan plan from our CFP®, CFA and CSLP® professionals. They charge a one-time fee for their thorough review. Our listeners receive $100 off a 1:1 consult using the link below. Flat fee is normally $595, but after your $100 off ‘Catching Up to FI’ discount, it's $495. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link: studentloanplanner.com/catchingup 📈 Boldin (formerly NewRetirement) Retirement planning software that's like having a financial advisor at your fingertips. You can get started with the free version or choose the premium option (PlannerPlus) and get a 14-day free trial. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link to get started: Go.boldin.com/catchingup For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐RickFerri.com Bogleheads on Investing Podcast The John C. Bogle Center for Financial Literacy List of Vanguard Funds and ETFs Bogleheads Investment Policy Statement 🌐PaulMerriman.com Merriman Financial Education Foundation Merriman Financial Literacy Program at Western Washington University Paul Merriman Quilt Charts (1928-2024) - 2024 Returns Paul Merriman Sound Investing Portfolios Performance (50-50) - 2024 Returns 📗What Works on Wall Street, Fourth Edition ‘Catching Up to FI’ Episodes: Financial Literacy and Mastering the Million Dollar Decisions | Paul Merriman | 132 We're Talking Millions! Part 1 | Paul Merriman | 008 We're Talking Millions! Part 2 | Paul Merriman | 009 If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you! ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Apr 7, 2025 • 54min
Bonus Episode: The Market is Crashing, Now What? | Bill & Jackie | 135
The stock market recently plummeted by 10%, causing fear among investors. Bill and Jackie discuss how to manage emotional responses during such turbulent times. They emphasize the importance of understanding historical market fluctuations and offer strategies like rebalancing and tax-loss harvesting. Personal anecdotes from past market crises highlight the need for patience and long-term perspective. The duo encourages a calm approach, viewing downturns as potential buying opportunities while advocating for community support in navigating these challenges.