

From Theater to Flow with Ross Beurmann
Jul 29, 2025
53:19
Join Dave Prior as he sits down with Ross Beurmann, author of "From Theater to Flow: Rebuilding the System Behind Agility." In this episode, they delve into the challenges of agile transformations, the concept of "Agile Theater," and the importance of focusing on the middle management to drive meaningful change. Ross shares insights from his book and discusses the need for organizations to rethink their approach to agility.
Key Topics:
The pitfalls of "Agile Theater" and how to avoid them
The role of middle management in successful transformations
Ross's unique approach to integrating governance and agility
Real-world examples and lessons learned from Ross's consulting experience
Links:
Ross's Book on Amazon https://tinyurl.com/37neasdm
Ross's Website https://rossbeurmann.com
Connect with Ross on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rossbeurmann/
Links from the intro:
The Agile Network https://theagilenetwork.com/
Agile 2025 https://agilealliance.org/agile2025/
Dave and Stuarts Talk at Agile 2025: Career Power-Ups: Surviving Through Uncertainty and Change https://tinyurl.com/2s4zhzts
Dave and Stuart’s Book: “No One Is Coming to Save You” https://leanpub.com/surfthechaos