

David Edmonds, "Death in a Shallow Pond: A Philosopher, a Drowning Child, and Strangers in Need" (Princeton UP, 2025)
Sep 1, 2025
David Edmonds, a bestselling author and Distinguished Research Fellow at the University of Oxford, discusses the ethics of altruism through the provocative drowning child thought experiment by Peter Singer. He probes the moral dilemmas of acting against personal loss versus saving a life. The conversation covers how this analogy sparked the Effective Altruism movement and critiques the role of wealthy philanthropists in democracy. Edmonds also examines the complex relationship between poverty and increasing inequality, challenging listeners to reassess their moral obligations.
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Origin Of The Shallow Pond
- Peter Singer invented the shallow pond thought experiment in 1971 to argue Westerners have obligations to distant sufferers.
- He compared failing to give to charity with walking past a drowning child wearing expensive shoes.
Giving Plus Effectiveness
- Effective Altruism pairs giving with evidence: donate and target the most effective charities.
- The movement asks members to give a significant share (often 10%+) and optimise impact.
EA And Structural Change Debate
- Critics see EA as Western, individualistic, and neglectful of structural change.
- EA defenders reply they would back structural reforms if strong evidence showed greater effectiveness.