The Bulwark Podcast

Mallory McMorrow and Bill Kristol: Imagining a World Where Trump Is Irrelevant

Oct 21, 2024
Mallory McMorrow, a Michigan State Senator advocating for abortion rights, joins Bill Kristol, a conservative political commentator. They discuss the brief glory of a Trump-less political landscape, emphasizing the importance of inclusivity and compassionate governance in Michigan. The conversation delves into the shifting dynamics of loyalty within the Republican Party, highlighted by Liz Cheney's stance against Trump. They also explore the implications of a potential second Trump term and the parallels between U.S. politics and Moldova's struggles.
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Flipping a District

  • Mallory McMorrow flipped a Republican district in 2018 by connecting with voters personally.
  • Voters were receptive to her genuine concern for their community and willingness to listen.
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Relatable Approach

  • McMorrow's relatable approach resonated with voters in Mitt Romney's hometown.
  • Being a "sane, rational, normal person" was a compelling argument for some voters.
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Bridging Divides

  • McMorrow gained two votes and a yard sign from a Republican-leaning household.
  • She achieved this by actively listening and showing genuine interest in their concerns, despite disagreements.
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