
Paul VanderKlay's Podcast A Metagelical Rotiserrie of Culture and Liturgy in a Consumer World
Oct 15, 2025
Jonathan Pageau, an Orthodox artist known for his insights on iconography and symbolism, joins a Georgian Orthodox participant to explore the intersection of culture and liturgy. They discuss the critical differences between worship and entertainment, emphasizing the importance of form in religious practices. Pageau argues that art should serve a greater purpose beyond itself, while the Georgian guest shares personal reflections on cultural Christianity and how church practices align with Christ's teachings. Their conversation navigates the complexities of faith in a consumer-driven world.
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Rebellion And Consumerism Shape US Churches
- American religiosity mixes rebelliousness with consumerism, shaping church diversity.
- Paul VanderKlay links national temperament to churches' radical variety and resistance to imposed structures.
Vineyard Restructuring And Departures
- The Vineyard restructured to add regional accountability and lost many churches.
- A staffer recounts 10–20% of churches left rather than accept imposed support roles.
Embed Accountability To Multiply Churches
- Build accountability into church networks to sustain discipleship and multiplication.
- Paul VanderKlay recommends leader-apprentice chains and structured groups to preserve life-on-life formation.








