

Clementine Desseaux on body positivity, femininity and being Indiana Jones
In this episode, my friend Clementine Desseaux (@bonjourclem), model, activist, TedEx speaker and CEO of the All Womxn Project shares stories ranging from her beginnings: with a start in business school, to a break through TV add as a plus-size model in France; her first "big" casting with American Apparel, and the trajectory that got her to start her charity, with the aim to offer young women limitless horizons.
Clem also explains to me how she has become her childhood idol, Indiana Jones, adding a thoughtful reflection on what it means to get the gold. She talks through her thoughts of fashion and beauty, and how things have moved on for plus size models. We end on her views about femininity and gelato: an indeed wide ranging and entertaining conversation with a bold and bright entrepreneur.
Clementine on Instagram
The TV ad that launched Clem's career in France with Castaluna
Clem in the American Apparel campaign
Elizabeth Gilbert on curiosity over fear, interview by Krista Tippet for On Being Podcast
The New York Times Article on beauty and body diversity
The painter Jerome Lagarrigue
The Campaign we talk about
Clem's video for the Louboutin rouge lipstick
Miski Muse and the Refinery 29 Campaign
@Hailey and her vegan cookbook
@Khloe Kares, the 13 year old activist
The Five Love Languages book & quiz
A tried and tested bolognese recipe
Below are resources and hotlines for victims of abuse:
National Domestic Violence (you can donate to them as well)
National Alliances on Mental Illness
Other Charities:
Thank you to Conor Heffernan for the music, Brian Ponto for artwork and Joel North for his help in improving our Zoom recording sound somewhat.
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