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225: Unabridged Interview: Parker Palmer (Part 1)

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Sep 5, 2025

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Parker J. Palmer

In this engaging conversation, Parker Palmer, a distinguished Quaker writer and activist, shares his journey toward finding true vocation. At 86, he reflects on the challenges of depression and how embracing contradictions has shaped his understanding of a fulfilling life. He emphasizes the importance of vulnerability in education and the courage needed to confront societal expectations versus personal desires. Parker also discusses the transformative power of connection and the need for resilience amidst life's complexities.

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Vocation Is A Long Experiment

Vocation unfolds through experiments and course corrections over a lifetime.
Palmer only found vocational coherence around age 50 after many detours and failures.

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ADVICE

Follow What You Can't Not Do

Follow openings that feel naturally compelling rather than forcing a life plan.
When an inner calling says "I can't not do this," act to avoid paying a price with your soul.

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Don't Live Someone Else's Heroic Script

People often live lives shaped by others' expectations and ideals.
Trying to be someone else's hero leads to damage if it mismatches your gifts.

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Finding One's True Vocation

04:50 • 21min

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Embracing Paradox in Education

25:39 • 23min

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The Power of Vulnerability in Teaching

48:59 • 5min

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Navigating Critique and Authenticity

53:47 • 30min

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Reflections on Despair and the Speed of Modern Deliveries

01:24:06 • 2min

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Let Your Life Speak

Listening for the Voice of Vocation

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In 'Let Your Life Speak', Parker J. Palmer reflects on the journey of finding one's true vocation through a deeply personal and compassionate lens. The book encourages readers to listen to their inner selves rather than external expectations, and to embrace their true identities and integrity. Palmer shares his own experiences, including struggles with depression and unconventional career paths, to illustrate the importance of authenticity and self-awareness in discovering one's calling. The book emphasizes that vocation is not a goal to be achieved but a gift to be received, and that it involves aligning one's life with one's natural gifts and interests.

This is part one of our unabridged interview with Parker Palmer.

“Things didn’t come together vocationally for me until I was 50.”

At 86 years old, Quaker writer, speaker, and activist Parker Palmer has much to say about living a good life. And in his experience, a good life is often hard-won and counterintuitive.

In this episode, Parker covers a lot of ground, offering wisdom gleaned from a life lived with attention to the makings of a good life. He tells about his experience seeking and finding vocation, discovering how a rich life entails the embrace of paradox, and living through three major bouts of depression, which gave him an increased attention to life’s small things.

Show Notes

Resources:

⁠Let Your Life Speak by Parker Palmer⁠

⁠The Courage to Teach by Parker Palmer⁠

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