On this episode of Learning from Machine Learning, I had the privilege of speaking with Maxime Labonne, Head of Post-Training at Liquid AI. We traced his journey from cybersecurity to the cutting edge of model architecture. Maxime shared how the future of AI isn't just about making models bigger—it's about making them smarter and more efficient.

Maxime's work demonstrates that challenging established paradigms requires taking steps backward to leap forward. His framework for data quality—accuracy, diversity, and complexity—offers a blueprint for anyone working with machine learning systems.

Most importantly, Maxime's perspective on learning itself—treating knowledge acquisition like training data exposure—reminds us that growth comes from diverse, high-quality experiences across different contexts. Whether you're training a model or developing yourself, the principles remain remarkably similar.

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00:46 Introduction and Maxime's Background

01:47 Journey from Cybersecurity to Machine Learning

03:30 The Fascination with AI and Cyber Attacks

06:15 Transitioning to Post-Training at Liquid AI

08:17 Liquid AI's Vision and Mission

10:08 Challenges of Deploying AI on Edge Devices

13:06 Techniques for Efficient Edge Model Training

15:44 The State of AI Hype and Reality

19:19 Evaluating AI Models and Benchmarks

24:09 Future of AI Architectures Beyond Transformers

31:05 Innovations in Model Architecture

36:28 The Importance of Iteration in AI Development

39:24 Understanding State Space Models

42:53 Advice for Aspiring Machine Learning Professionals

48:53 The Quest for Quality Data

52:56 Integrating User Feedback into AI Systems

58:13 Lessons from Machine Learning for Life

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