Being Human with Steve Cuss

Chuck DeGroat and The Crisis of Integrity in Church Leadership

Jun 2, 2025
Chuck DeGroat, a psychologist and pastor at Western Seminary, dives into the crisis of integrity facing church leadership. He discusses the hidden dynamics behind pastoral burnout and narcissism, explaining how unexamined coping mechanisms can erode character. They explore why church boards often overlook red flags and highlight the necessity of creating safe environments for accountability. The conversation also touches on navigating imposter syndrome and the importance of authenticity in personal growth, offering practical tools for healthier leadership.
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INSIGHT

Leaders Fail When Coping Fails

  • Church leaders often fall due to failing coping mechanisms rather than intent to harm.
  • Many lose sight of the gospel and rely too much on themselves, leading to breakdowns.
INSIGHT

Boards' Deference Blindness

  • Boards often grant pastors benefit of the doubt due to their ordained authority.
  • This deference can blind boards to red flags and abusive behaviors for too long.
ANECDOTE

Steve's Journey Through Fear

  • Steve Cuss entered ministry afraid and covered fear with arrogance and confidence.
  • Peers confronted his pretense, which was threatening but eventually transformative.
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