
This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler How Putin stole Russia's future
Jul 24, 2025
Irina Borogan, a Russian journalist and co-author of 'Our Dear Friends in Moscow', dives deep into the disillusionment of the perestroika generation. She reflects on the initial hopes for freedom after the Soviet Union's fall, contrasting them with the rise of Putin's authoritarian grip. Borogan reveals how public perception shifted, the impact of military recruitment, and the chilling return of state repression. Despite the bleak situation, she offers a glimmer of cautious optimism for Russia's future, emphasizing the resilience of those brave enough to speak out.
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Childhood Shift After Chernobyl
- Irina Borogan recalls perestroika bringing open political talk into schools and homes after Chernobyl.
- That sudden openness shaped her childhood optimism about Russia's future.
Power Through Fear And Promise
- Putin combined KGB-style repression with promises to oligarchs and national pride to secure support.
- That mix neutralized dissent while restoring a sense of Russian strength for many citizens.
Theatre Siege Changed Public Mood
- The 2002 Moscow theatre hostage crisis terrified the whole country because it happened in the capital.
- That fear made security and strong leadership more politically potent for Putin.



