"Photographers, like all artists, choose their medium because it allows them the most fully truthful expression of their vision. Other ways are relatively imprecise and incomplete. . . . "
- Robert Adams

In this episode, Antonio and Ward sit down with their guest (and follower of the show), Jeffrey Saldinger. Jeffrey, who started as a painter, shares his artistic journey and how he eventually fell in love with photography. Inspired by Giorgio Morandi’s exhibition at the Guggenheim, Jeffrey decided to focus on his creative life, swapping brushes for cameras. He talks about his transition from painting to photography and how he mastered digital tools like Lightroom and Photoshop.

They discuss Jeffrey's recent photo book, “Unassuming Places in New York City’s Manhattan and Astoria.” Jeffrey explains his process of selecting and arranging images, emphasizing formal qualities and personal connections over traditional storytelling. The conversation also covers the challenges of photographing familiar places. Antonio suggests a joint talk about capturing the essence of neighborhoods. Jeffrey’s work, especially his unpeopled photos, receives praise for turning everyday scenes into emotional art.