Lex Fridman Podcast

#466 – Jeffrey Wasserstrom: China, Xi Jinping, Trade War, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Mao

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Apr 24, 2025
Jeffrey Wasserstrom, an expert on modern Chinese history, discusses pivotal moments in China's past and present. He dives into the contrasting leadership styles of Xi Jinping and Mao Zedong, revealing their similarities and differing philosophies on governance. The conversation covers the Tiananmen Square protests, shedding light on the enduring legacy of the movement and 'Tank Man.' Wasserstrom also analyzes the complexities of censorship in China and the impact of nationalism on U.S.-China relations, especially regarding Taiwan and Hong Kong's tensions.
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Mao Vs. Xi Jinping Leadership

  • Mao Zedong reveled in chaos and disorder as a way to improve society. Xi Jinping, in contrast, values order and stability highly in governance.
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Confucian Hierarchy Explained

  • Confucius valued stable hierarchical relationships with mutual obligations. This conservative worldview contrasts deeply with Communist ideas of class struggle and progress.
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Meritocracy’s Limits in China

  • China's meritocratic system stresses education but is limited by access to resources like quality tutors. Nepotism often undermines fairness and sparks public outrage.
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