The NY Times is Now Openly Promoting Eugenics (Eugenics vs. Polygenics)

We discuss a shocking New York Times article advocating for breeding only short people to help the environment. This blatant eugenics promotion reveals the authoritarian thinking and moral blindspots on the left. We contrast it to polygenic selection which supports family choice, not society-wide suppression of "undesirable" genes. We also cover recent studies confirming left wing authoritarianism and the left's cultural genocide of minorities through forced assimilation.

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Like, if you take two steps back from all this, it's like, I feel like that meme where they're like, you know,

how's it going now?

You know, and they're like, it's like New York times promoting eugenics to help the environment. Ooh, that bad, huh?

Yikes guys. Yeah, you, you are. Deep in the spiral now

Would you like to know more?

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, what did I do? Well, I thought that recorded. I clicked the camera because I could camera for recording. You know, we've only done this a hundreds of times now. And of course I turn off my camera anyway, whatever I did to be here with you because I have seen this trend in media recently that just flabbergasted.

So. For context here, Simone and I have gone through, you know, the, the rounds in progressive media over and over and over again, they hate that we do polygenic selection on our kids because, oh, my God, we believe that humans have genes and certain traits are [00:01:00] heritable and that families should have access to the reproductive choices to have kids the way that their culture says it's the.

the ethical way to have kids and in a way that nudges those genes in directions that their family values on an individual basis. Right. And as well,

Simone Collins: they unceasingly accuse us of eugenics, even though by the definition of eugenics that anyone could agree upon, like if you look at Wikipedia's definition of eugenics, we are very much against eugenics because one, we don't believe that there are universally good or bad traits.

And two, we are very much against trying to fight for. Promulgation or suppression of those universally good or bad traits in on a society level. Right? So

Malcolm Collins: like to point it out, like what we think is every culture and every family should have the right to choose what traits they think are best for their family to optimize around.

Right? And then as a society. Like, like, the world tests us and determines which families and which groups chose correctly. [00:02:00] Yeah, but

Simone Collins: there are different societal, environmental, economic, etc. contexts

Malcolm Collins: that make different traits useful. Yeah, and one of the interesting things that has been a theme to me recently is as soon as the left, like, accepts something that we've been trying to get them to accept forever, as like, don't immediately, like, run away screaming like you touched a hot stove when you mention something like humans have genes, their first intuition is always to take it to the most insane and evil place humanly imaginable.

And so the left has finally admitted That some traits in humans may have a genetic component and the very first thing they want to do is eugenics, like, like, bad eugenics, like evil state sanctioned, like, yeah,

Simone Collins: like you should only reproduce with these people.

Malcolm Collins: Eugenics. Yeah. Yeah. You should only reproduce with these.

people because these are the good people and other people are the bad people. Like, why can't the left just not be evil for five seconds? But anyway, and I'm not talking about fringe left here. Okay. So there was an article talking [00:03:00] about New York times and the New York times now that they have realized the humans have genes.

They're like, well, short people are better for the environment. Therefore you should only breed with short people. And. Hold on, so this isn't just like the New York Times. So the article in New York Times that goes over this is there has never been a better time to be short, but there have been other articles like this.

There was 1 in popular mechanics. You should make with short people to fight.

Climate change expert says there was you know. Yeah, there's been a few articles that have sort of gone over this. And

Simone Collins: by the way, nothing against short people, first off, I want to say that. Like, there are definitely, there are longevity benefits to being short.

There are health benefits to being short. And there are environmental benefits to being short. We're not saying, it's the fact that they're taking a eugenic stance on this that we have a problem with. In fact, we shared this article on Twitter and one of our followers pointed out quite cleverly and this is a very dangerous question to ask.

Which is wait, but like, [00:04:00] what's the difference between like a short person and like a thin person in terms of their environmental impact? Oh, I know. It's like,

Malcolm Collins: don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't watch out. Watch out. No, no, no, no, no, no,

Simone Collins: no, no, no, no. We can't talk about. But being

Malcolm Collins: fat isn't their fault, it's genetic.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say that because if it's genetic, then they shouldn't be breeding because they're taking up more, they're making more carbon emissions here.

Simone Collins: Well, and not, not to mention government healthcare expenditures. I mean, the burden on governments and the private healthcare system and private citizens themselves.

Malcolm Collins: on. Hold on. There's no, a human can't burden the government with expenses. What are you talking about? We're talking about their burden on the environment. The thing that matters. Okay. Not their, not their fellow citizens. Right. But the environment. Environment. And, okay. How do we get out of this New York times?

How do we get out of this? Come on. Let's quick, quick, find a way. Fat people are a discriminated class therefore, [00:05:00] but aren't short people discriminated because

short people earn less money on average and short people get

Simone Collins: passed over on dating markets and yeah,

Malcolm Collins: dating markets. Ooh, they're just as arguably a discriminated class, but, but okay.

So here's how short people are different. Okay. I figured it out. So the left is a predominantly female, okay. These days as you see voting patterns, it's predominantly female and being short as a woman, is it discriminatory? And as a woman, I don't value short men. I mean, they're not really human because I don't want to breed with them.

This is the way that I think a lot of women intuitively actually see men where they're like, I don't mind when guys hit on me. And then it's like, they get the ugly guy, you know, there's that famous meme and they're like, ah,

HR because. Those guys aren't guys. They're like these monsters that mope around in society.

And

Simone Collins: they're like 5'2 and they have on their Tinder profile. Don't DM me

Malcolm Collins: unless you're over 6'4 or something like that, like ridiculous. So I think it's very normal for women to just blatantly dehumanize. And, and, and because the left is, is they [00:06:00] don't see short people as like really people, but when you talk about fat people, well, they could be fat.

I mean. Their friends could be fat, you know, and they, you know, when you talk about like progressive women, yes, they overwhelmingly are often obese. Well, we keep seeing this in our detractors, you know, it's, it's actually, that's a, this

Simone Collins: is an interesting question. I don't, I wonder if there is a political divide on being overweight in the United States.

I don't think there is because I do think there's a genetic genetic component that inhibitory control around highly processed foods. And it's not. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Like, I, I would guess that there isn't a political difference in obesity, but maybe this is because I grew up in a really progressive society, assuming that like, you know, I was kind

Malcolm Collins: of Well, the first vertical I find is Democrats are more likely than Republicans or independents to blame their genetics for obesity.

Simone Collins: Yeah. I mean, yes, because external obesity control is rampant in progressive culture. But I was raised with this like caricature of the Southern fat. [00:07:00] Republican, you know, so like, I don't know, you know, I mean like now I'm like, I know we're conservatives have the, the stereotype of the, you know, fat, obese, blue haired progressive.

So I don't know. It's really,

Malcolm Collins: I just think that I think Republicans are more frequently overweight than Democrats. There

Simone Collins: you go. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Ah. Yeah. Interesting. So, so.

Simone Collins: But I see, I think that what that has to do is it has to do more with urban versus rural culture. And then the effect that that can have.

I think it has to do with poverty. yeAh. Poverty too, probably. But I just feel like, especially when you live in a city and you are walking more places, it just makes a huge impact on.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, I think that you know, the Democrats have become the party of the wealthy elite, you know, downtrodden on the, on the common working man in this country.

Like it's very clear, like they are the party of the, of the elite and the oppressors. And

Simone Collins: they get in their steps by stomping on the dreams of the rural disempowered.

Malcolm Collins: Well, I mean, they're just so [00:08:00] like, to me. What I like about this, this New York times article, right? Where they're like, okay, get short people here.

As we were talking about how they don't really see short people, short men as human. And this is trying to like nudge them in that direction. Probably a short, like male Democrat. Who's like, yeah, guys,

please see me as human. Please breed with me for the environment. Yeah. Sex with people like me helps the environment.

He knows, he knows his audience. It would

Simone Collins: be, it honestly would be better though, if it were that, because then it would be less eugenics and more just like, please, someone just trying to get laid. Yeah. Like just, just be nice to me, please. Which I, I find a lot more charitable than, Oh, here is this superior treat.

Let us all. You know, make sure that humanity breeds in that direction which just really rubs us the wrong way. So, you know,

Malcolm Collins: well, I I, I love this. Well, so, so, and I think we need a [00:09:00] different word for when people. Are looking at this stuff from our perspective, right? Like, we individually believe families should have a choice.

And so the word I would promote here is polygenic. So some people promote eugenics and we promote polygenics. Polygenics, meaning, you know, you have a choice in this and you have a choice in using polygenic screening. Whereas eugenics is the promotion of the belief culture wide of trying to eugenics.

Aim towards some large

Simone Collins: of good genes of just good genes.

Malcolm Collins: Like there is a bad genes is where it's polygenics and promoting polygenics is an issue of reproductive rights which is just a completely different thing than eugenics. And so, that's, that's what we're pushing here. I also think that, like, we move forward as a society, you know, you have these two groups, like, suppose they do get their way and they start breeding these short people.

Are we going to go in the opposite direction? Are we going to create, like, space marines, like, giant, giant custodies?

Like, large Super intelligent chadman or something that'll be like 10 feet tall, like genetically [00:10:00] pre programmed, like double muscled,

like you have in some of those cows that look like

Simone Collins: the roid cows.

Malcolm Collins: These hulking brutes of people that the problem is, is that right now, you know, if you're not employing polygenic data to, to height, height does shorten your lifespan, which is something Simone is pointing out. So, they would have an advantage on lifespan unless, you know, they're just doing old fashioned, like, super evil eugenics where it's just like, well, we'll keep these people from breeding instead of using polygenic selection, which allows you to increase health at the same time as increasing things like height was in some groups.

But yeah, that, that's, that would be an interesting direction for society to go in terms of human speciation. The problem is, is that what's really happening with human speciation, and you can see this in the data, because it's already happening in terms of the bell curve of the different clusters of genetic traits is that obesity, you know, we were talking about obesity, is actually being heavily selected for.

It's other than IQ. I think the number one [00:11:00] polygenic score that's most associated with high fertility. So, what you're likely seeing is and, and maybe shorter. I wouldn't be surprised if shorter. So, so fatter, shorter, lower IQ group. And then this other group which is the wealthy, the wealthy population where you see within the ultra wealthy population, you also get higher fertility rates but you see less crossbreeding material populations than you're used to, which within any biological textbook, you would call that like, if you see a trait and you see like a U curve in, in fertility rates tied to that trait.

You call that behavioral isolation which is different. So you have a few types of isolation that can lead to speciation. You have things like what's the word I'm talking? I want to say like geographic isolation. Yeah, I think geographic isolation, which means like a stream occurs between two populations.

Behavioral isolation is like. Some people begin to develop a trait where they really like having sex only at night. And then another group develops a trait where they really like only having sex during the day. And then these two groups live alongside each other, but they [00:12:00] just stop interbreeding with each other.

Oh, interesting. aNd so that's, that's really what we're seeing happening here right now in humans, which is pretty interesting. But I, I'm, I, I just think it's wild that the New York Times has gone in this direction. And you know, you're not seeing a backlash. You're seeing like Republicans laugh at them like, ha ha ha.

But what's interesting to me is us who clearly don't have a eugenic position. We have a polygenic position, but it could be seen as eugenic by people who are broadly uneducated and they're just looking for any reason to paint us as bad guys that even that slightest hint is used to attempt to smear us in article after article, and yet mainstream left wingers can go full on like evil eugenics promotion, like the most evil type of eugenics promotion.

And I guess he's not. Promoting government mandates yet. But they, they, they can go full out and do this and there is no real repercussion for doing it. So long as they are quote unquote identified, like they're wearing their leftist armor and they're, and they're doing these evil things [00:13:00] to promote the environment.

Well, and

Simone Collins: that's what's so interesting when I, I searched the URL on Twitter to see like what the general commentary was, if there was any and, and most of the, it's, it's disappointing that most of the commentary was essentially just like. Derision of short people, you know, like, oh, how disgusting that like someone would want their kids to be short and do things to try to make their kids shorter and like try to choose, you know, like, oh, short people gross.

Whereas like, imagine how mad your kids would be. If they were made short

Malcolm Collins: by you. Oh yes, because suppose they do this with polygenic screening. They end up just selecting for shorter kids. And you have to explain, especially to your young male kid, I made you short for the environment, little Timmy.

Simone Collins: No, no, no.

I actually think in the article I have to pull it up. Hold on, give me a second. Where he actually is like limiting his kids dietary options to keep them short.

Malcolm Collins: [00:14:00] Oh, whoa! These people are evil! Well, he's an environmental scientist, what do you expect, right?

Simone Collins: Sorry, I'm trying to find this, because I don't want to speak out of turn here.

Malcolm Collins: I love when progressives decide that they're going to implement eugenics programs, instead of going in the direction of trying to create like uber minches, they're like, let's intentionally create spiteful mutants. Let's intentionally, like, just fight. F**k people. F**k up their s**t. Like, restrict my children's diet.

Like, that is so sad. But there's another thing that I wanted to go on, because there was another article it was actually a piece of research that was done recently. And I was going to do a full episode on it, but I think this could be a great time to discuss it. Which is, progressives just found out in this, in this study and, and apparently this had not been found before in other studies that it turns out that authoritarianism

exists on both the [00:15:00] right and the left.

Intriguingly, the researchers found some common traits between left wing and right wing authoritarians, including a preference for social uniformity, prejudice towards difference in others, willingness to wield group authority to coerce behavior, cognitive rigidity, aggressiveness, Punitiveness Towards Perceived Enemies, Ostracized Concern for Hierarchy and Moral Absolutism. Eh, wha eh, wha How did you not see this? For seventy years, this is the quote here, For seventy years, lore in the social sciences has been that authoritarianism was found exclusively on the political right.

The Rutgers University social psychologist, Lee Josten Who wasn't involved in the new SOTY told me over email, so this isn't just the people in the study are like, yeah, only nobody believed like it was believed hypothetically. There might be a form of left wing authoritarianism, but [00:16:00] science just hadn't found it yet.

And it shows how strongly you have to not be looking. Like if you're just like a common sane person and you're looking at the left, you're like, wow, this movement is blindingly authoritarian, but not just that when leftist governments gain control and they have disproportionate control, they go authoritarian always and much faster than rightist governments, you know, with communist governments and stuff like that.

And all of those traits are very obviously like an Antifa member to the T like Antifa, which is so interesting to me as they claim to be. An anti-authoritarian group, and yet every one of those groups that they associate with authoritarianism are literally what defines Antifa when contrasted with more moderate Democrats.

It is an authoritarian group, and you look at the tactics they use and they look like the tactics that like the Nazi brown shirts were using before Hitler won the election and stuff like that. Like this gang violence and stuff like that. It is. [00:17:00] Did you find the quote you were looking for?

Simone Collins: yeAh, I did.

He's even restricted dairy from his son's diets and only allows them minimal sugar in an attempt to limit their growth, saving them from the ills of height.

Malcolm Collins: Damn.

Simone Collins: Wait, but that's something. This is something someone tweeted. So,

Malcolm Collins: you don't know if it's true.

Simone Collins: It's, it's, it's hard for me to say cause like, so she shared the article on Twitter.

This person named Caitlin Flanagan shared on Twitter quote, he's even restricted dairy from his son's diets and only allows the minimal sugar in an attempt to limit their growth, saving them from the ills of height end quote. And then she says, anyone else think things are pretty weird around here? And then she just shared a link to the article.

So I don't know if the article actually.

Malcolm Collins: No, well, maybe she got this information somewhere else. I wouldn't be surprised. But anyway, to continue with what I'm saying here. So the authoritarian stuff is, is really interesting to me, and that it could be so blind to that. And I think it really falls in line with what we're talking about on this article, how the New York [00:18:00] Times can have this article that in this position in it, that Clearly promoting evil eugenics.

And yet they can be completely blind to what they're doing because it is a leftist doing it for leftist reasons. Well, but I think the,

Simone Collins: the bigger issue is that progressivism is, is sort of, A moral monolith, like there are shared morals and values. And so they, they quote unquote, know what's good, right?

They understand what's good. And therefore they're not going to question any policy that supports what they believe to be good. They're not questioning that. Whereas what has become the conservative movement now is really more about cultural sovereignty and, and protecting one's right. To hold one's own.

And protecting

Malcolm Collins: diversity in the population.

Simone Collins: And so then there, there isn't this same like, Oh, well, this is obviously the morally right thing to do. No, I would say that the conservative movement is sometimes overtaken by subsets that are like, this [00:19:00] is the morally right or good thing to do, like with the, with the abortion.

Like, like legislation shifts the really, it could be argued that what took place in the Supreme court with abortion in the United States was appropriate because it allowed for states to exercise cultural sovereignty on a state level by making those decisions at the state level, which, you know, perhaps is the right way to go.

I don't know. But yeah, I just, I think that's, that's the difference is one when, when you believe that you are good. And it is your culture to believe that you are righteous, then you are not going to question the morality of your chosen methods and actions. Whereas if you're just fighting for things like cultural sovereignty, or if you have doubts about your righteousness or the right way to go, you're not going to do it the same way.

Malcolm Collins: Well, I think what we're seeing here, because I don't think the left would have done stuff like this in the past, although the fact that they never did somehow didn't discover after, like, communist, you know, communist Russia, that leftism [00:20:00] has an authoritarian streak they couldn't find any authoritarian leftists, they were unicorns.

So, I mean, it shows how blind they've been to this for a while, but I think increasingly, recently, they've become so isolated within their intellectual bubbles that they have blinded themselves to the idea that any, any idea within the left could have an evil streak to it, whereas we, on the right, I'd say, yeah, if you're going out there and you're pushing some, like, ethnocentric policy That's evil, right?

Like you should not allow that to happen. Now, unfortunately, from our perspective, the left is much more likely these days to push ethnocentric policies. If they're for an approved ethnicity, like the right hasn't, hasn't really had a large and meaningful group pushing ethnocentric policies in like half a century at this point.

But there are groups like, I'm not gonna lie. There are groups on the right that sometimes attempt things like that. They, they are and I should point out, and this is something we constantly point out for the 539 poll and the article on this, they are not [00:21:00] disproportionately, 538, 538 poll they are not disproportionately larger than the ethnocentric groups on the left, even the white nationalists.

So, as we point out from the 538 poll, and I will never stop mentioning this stat is that until Obama was elected more white Democrats and white Republicans said they would not vote for a black president. So, so the right does have a problem with this sometimes, but the left also has this white, ethnic centrism really deep within it.

They just pretend they don't. They're like, oh, yeah, the unions, they don't have that problem. They've never been centers of racism and I feel like that's worse

Simone Collins: to never admit to never admit it. Yeah,

Malcolm Collins: I mean, it really twisted the narrative in society, which is confused people about what's actually going on so much that I think a lot of the, the masses are just living in this wild distortion field where the left isn't carrying out, like, An intentional and, and wide [00:22:00] scale cultural genocide of groups that it sees as lesser than itself, lesser than the urban monoculture they do not see that the left is openly excited about the erasure of not just, you know, domestic cultural groups that are different from it, which are usually religious cultural groups, but the erasure of immigrant culture you know, in the article It's another article that we've done a piece on.

I don't know which one's going to come out first where the guy was, was talking about from a leftist perspective, following fertility rates and he was like, well, and I really promote immigration and assimilation. Assimilation is cultural genocide. If you're doing it at a large level, you are saying I want to erase their culture.

Whereas I think that. What what the right supports and what I think is the actual correct way to approach immigration is that immigrant groups should immigrate insofar as. Their culture can mesh well within [00:23:00] American culture and can add to American culture which I think, you know, Hispanic immigrant populations do spectacularly well, you know, there are these traditional tradcast communities with value systems that are very similar to previous Irish immigrant groups.

Sorry, the two previous Catholic immigrant groups. Like, I love it so much. I'll talk to, to some people when they're anti immigration sometimes, and they'll be like, Ah, the Hispanic immigrants are coming over with their gangs! And I'm like, okay, every large Catholic immigrant group has done this, whether it was the Irish mob or the Italian mafia, it's just something Catholics do.

I don't know why, but those two groups have made America stronger, not because we erased their cultures, but because their cultures added to our own, you know, whether it's our pizza or pasta or, you know, these you know, when I think of a pizza these days, like an American style feature Detroit style pizza, you know, this is [00:24:00] the, The fusion of these cultures to create something better because we didn't go out there with the goal of erasing their culture when they came to this country.

And yet now that is the left reason dtra because they can't replenish this urban monoculture that they've created. It has almost zero fertility rate. Mm-Hmm. , they've, they've, they're getting worse at deconvert people, children from the Right, you know, they're, they've gone way too far with this education system that they're using to attempt to, um.

You know, we'll basically take the children of nearby demographically healthy cultural groups. And so they are now shipping in immigrants to erase their culture. And it is something that is just so sad to see when I talk to the parents, like immigrant parents, and they talk about what has happened to their children.

You know, and it is, it is really sad to see this loss of cultural identity. It reminds me so much of these days of the early immigrants, you know, where they were promised, oh, you go to America and there's gold on the street and everything like that. And, and these were clear lies that people were using to take advantage of them.

[00:25:00] And now these people are told, come to America so that your family going forwards can be wealthy and be successful. And then their kids are medically sterilized, if not outright castrated and taught to hate their parents, hate their parents culture to see it as backwards. And

Simone Collins: what makes it extra painful is parents are often.

Living much harder lives to enable this, you know, it's not like their, their lives are going to be easier immigrating to the United States, starting fresh. You know, in many cases, you know, to get into the United States, you have to be a highly qualified person. Often doctors come in and have to completely redo their education.

Like it's, it's a nightmare. And then all of this is to give their kids a better future. And then their kids are like, no, I don't want a future. I'm not going to have a future. I'm not going to have kids. I'm not going to. You know, I'm going to sort of lean back from life. I'm not going to marry. I'm not going to really invest in

Malcolm Collins: a lot.

That was always the plan. When they say we're taking in immigrants and we need to assimilate them, [00:26:00] assimilate them to what? Not conservative Christian culture, not trad cast culture. No. What they mean is we need to assimilate them to the urban monoculture. They can still call themselves. You know, whatever they want, they can still call themselves Muslim.

If they want, they can still call themselves Catholic. If they want, they just can't deviate from our cultural views on any major issue that humanity deals with, whether that's morality or gender or sexuality or the way we. Relate to you know, our partners or the, what we think of the future of species is the way we relate to our environment.

You, you literally can't differentiate from anything, but if you token holidays, it reminds me of this, this, this old song that I used to love

the gap year song I'm going on a gap. Yeah. And he's going around the world and he's so he's, he's bragging about all of these different cultures that he's experiencing, but he's so obviously.

has this deep dis disrespect from them, like he barely sees their cultures as humans and they're just tools for him, like,

 I was in [00:27:00] Africa in Tazna I saw this woman with malaria And she looked at me with this vacant stare As if to say, despite our differences,

Malcolm Collins: parah. Parah, darling. Do you mean parah? Beautiful people. Beautiful people. Patting one of them on the

god, I can't believe you said that because that really reminds me of this time. Oh my god. Yeah Yeah, I was in South America in Prague , yeah. Wonderful country, beautiful people, yeah.

Um, yeah, I knew. We were drinking in the Andes, and the sun was just rising and glinting off the snow, creating a sort of ethereal haze. And I really got a sense of the awesome power of nature and the insignificance of man. And then I just shuddered. Everywhere.

Malcolm Collins: head. That's what they mean when they're like, everyone's a hot one.

Wonderful [00:28:00] people. Wonderful country people. Of course now if your parents do deviate from us on any of the approved beliefs, we are unfortunately going to need to teach you that the fact that they disagreed with us was traumatizing to you as a child. They are the source of all of your problems.

You will need to constantly give us money at this date, appointed psychologists. Who you will become dependent on because they will tell you that the only way to relieve your trauma is continuing to come see them, continuing to come have your brain, they will clean your brain, don't worry, they'll wash your brain for you and you'll feel amazing, you'll feel amazing, you'll wake up every day I mean, obviously, statistically, you won't feel amazing, obviously Statistically, when we look at progressive populations, you know, over 50 percent of progressive white women under the age of 30 have a serious mental health issue.

Well, but that's because

Simone Collins: they've experienced so much trauma. That's not their fault at all.

Malcolm Collins: Well, the trauma is, unfortunately, being exposed to people who had different views than them, often in their childhood, and that is, of course, deeply [00:29:00] traumatic.

Simone Collins: Progressive culture is just trying to cure it,

Malcolm Collins: don't you see?

Yeah, they're just trying to cure the cultures that they're shipping, and so why are they shipping in these cultures? It's because they want their children, because they can't, they can't as easily take children from the surrounding groups anymore. And it's really, really messed up. Like, if you take two steps back from all this, it's like, I feel like that meme where they're like, you know,

how's it going now?

You know, and they're like, it's like New York times promoting eugenics to help the environment. Ooh, that bad, huh?

Yikes guys. Yeah, you, you are. Deep in the spiral now I, I, and, and you won't get out of it. It's going extinct. There's nothing I can do. You know, when we come to them, say it's like a, you know, Noah in the Ark, you know, with this fertility rate thing, you know, sometimes you go to the unicorns, and you're like, hey, Get on the ark.

And they're like, f**k you, bigot. And you're like, okay. I don't have, I don't [00:30:00] have the patience of Noah. Go off into the woods and die in the flood, okay? We're trying to tell you your fertility rate. How could you say my fertility rate is too low? Is that because I'm, you know White? And it's like, no, it's because of the cultural group you're in just has a desperately low fertility rate, and that is the urban monoculture, which is a multi ethnic group, and it is very, very, very, very, very low fertility rate.

Well, I don't know about that. It sounds like you're telling women that they have some sort of duty to society, and that I might have to work for this duty. Well, I mean, I think men have an equal duty. Ha! You said it! You said it! And then you point out, wait, when you say women have a duty to society, are you saying that men don't have wombs?

That there aren't a group of men out there with wombs? They're like, well of course I also need to, but of course they wouldn't forget that. Women and men with wombs, they would say. Duty to society. This whole thing is just getting absolutely comical at this point. [00:31:00] But oh, well,

Simone Collins: I'm sure it'll get crazier.

That's okay. I love you too.

Malcolm Collins: Have a great day. You

Simone Collins: too, gorgeous.

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