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Mike and Chris discuss design systems at the enterprise level, the history of systems, and UX design at the beginning of the internet.

Guest: Mike Bowser is the Design Director, Design Systems at Vista. He is a UX/UI designer, design team leader, and educator with expertise in design systems, UX research, and UI design. His recent focus is closing the gap between how we concept and design and how products are actually built. He’s also interested in the growing opportunities for automation in the future of UX design and design systems.

You can find Mike on Twitter as @mikebowser and on LinkedIn.

Huge thanks to Jeff Yaus, Emily Mills, and Sujeet Jaiswal from Vista, and Fabricio Teixeira and the team at Work&Co for their contributions to the Vista design language and design system.

Host: Chris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.

Sponsor: Knapsack is a design system platform rooted in code for shipping consistent apps in half the time. Design once, build once, use everywhere. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.

View the transcript for this episode.

Het internet is dood, leve het internet