For Heaven's Sake Coming Apart
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Nov 12, 2025 This discussion dives into the complex landscape of Jewish identity amid rising division. The hosts explore what it means when 30% of NYC Jews back a candidate seen as antisemitic, challenging notions of betrayal and belonging. They debate the boundaries of community, distinguishing between doctrinal and existential red lines while pondering the impacts of political choices. With a call for communal self-reckoning, they advocate for inclusion over exclusion, emphasizing the necessity of maintaining debate without banishment.
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Divisions Threaten Communal Sustainability
- Deep political and theological divisions in Jewish life are reaching unsustainable levels across Israel and North America.
- The hosts frame the problem as both existential safety concerns and communal identity conflicts that won't simply disappear.
Two Core Boundary Types
- Jews draw boundaries mainly along doctrinal and existential lines, each triggering different communal responses.
- Yossi prioritizes threats to physical safety as the decisive boundary for when dissent becomes a deeper rupture.
Moral Credibility As A Boundary
- Donniel locates his boundary in moral credibility and communal ethics rather than solely existential survival.
- He sees threats to the Jewish people's moral standing as a separate, significant trigger for distancing.