BiggerPockets Money Podcast

How Much Do You Need for Early Retirement? (How to Calculate Your FI Number)

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Jul 11, 2025
What does it take to retire early? Dive into the nuances of the financial independence number and the ongoing debate surrounding the four-percent rule. Discover why many savings plans fall short and learn personal insights from the hosts about their own calculations. Explore practical strategies to control living expenses, like the benefits of paying off a house and managing rental properties. Get ready to reassess your financial goals and understand the impact of lifestyle changes on achieving your aspirations.
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ANECDOTE

Mindy's First FI Number Journey

  • Mindy Jensen set her initial FI number around $1 million in the early 2010s when she was a stay-at-home mom with two kids.
  • She achieved that target by early 2016 due to disciplined saving and favorable market growth.
ANECDOTE

Scott's FI Number Evolution

  • Scott Trench initially aimed for a $1 million FI number around 2013-2014 as a single person with low living expenses.
  • His lifestyle needs grew with family and career changes, shifting his spending and FI goals.
ADVICE

Incorporate Real Estate Cash Flow

  • Treat rental real estate's rental cash flow as contributing directly to your annual spending needs.
  • Subtract expected rental income from your yearly expenses to reduce the FI number calculated from other investments.
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