Hadrian & Antinous: Toxic Boyfriends of the Roman Empire (feat. Neil D'Astolfo)
Aug 8, 2024
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Neil D'Astolfo, an expert on Roman history, joins the discussion on the tumultuous relationship between Emperor Hadrian and his young lover Antinous. They tackle the complexities of their bond, delving into themes of grooming and sacrifice within the context of ancient Roman society. The conversation explores queer narratives and mentorship dynamics in Rome, while humorously examining Hadrian's character. They also contemplate the transformation of Antinous from a mere mortal to a posthumous icon, blending historical insight with contemporary reflections.
Hadrian's relationship with Antinous invites scrutiny on the complexities of male homosexual relationships and societal norms in ancient Rome.
The contrasting depiction of Hadrian as a benevolent ruler and a paranoid leader highlights the multifaceted nature of his legacy and reign.
Antinous's death and Hadrian's subsequent deification efforts ignite discussions about the authenticity of their bond and implications of power dynamics.
Deep dives
Hadrian and Antonus: A Notorious Love Story
Hadrian, a prominent ruler of ancient Rome, is noted for his relationship with a young Greek named Antonus, whom he mourned deeply after Antonus’s mysterious death. This relationship prompts discussions about Hadrian's sexuality, as historians grapple with the evidence surrounding his romantic interests. While some argue that Hadrian was dedicated to Antonus, others speculate about the nature of their bond, given the cultural context of ancient Rome and the societal norms regarding male relationships at the time. This narrative invites contemporary debates about queer history and the complexities of Hadrian's character as both a leader and a lover.
The Nature of Ancient Roman Homosexuality
In ancient Rome, homosexual relationships were complex and often intertwined with power dynamics and social status. The concept of manliness played a significant role, as Roman men were expected to maintain an active, dominating sexual role, often with younger males, while being penetrated was perceived as a loss of status. This societal expectation was distinctly different from the more accepted relationships seen in ancient Greece, where pederasty was common and deeply tied to mentorship and social education. Hadrian's relationships and sexual preferences reveal the nuanced layers of sexuality in Roman society, challenging modern perceptions.
The Complicated Legacy of Hadrian
Hadrian's time as emperor is marked by his fascination with Greek culture and his tendency to consolidate power through both charitable acts and political maneuvering, often involving his sexual relationships. However, this image of a benevolent ruler contrasts sharply with his later years, where he becomes increasingly paranoid, ruthless, and anti-Semitic in response to rebellions in Judea. His oppressive policies, resulting in significant suffering for the Jewish population, underscore a darker aspect of his reign, exemplifying the complexities of his legacy. Hadrian's ability to balance grandeur and brutality encapsulates the contradictions inherent in many historical figures.
The Tragedy of Antonus
Antonus’s untimely death prompts speculation and theories regarding its circumstances, including suggestions of accidental drowning, suicide, or even sacrificial motives connected to Hadrian’s declining health. Despite Hadrian's efforts to immortalize Antonus through deification and widespread worship, the ambiguities surrounding their relationship fuel ongoing discussions about exploitation versus genuine affection. The cult of Antonus spread across the empire, indicating his lasting impact, but also raises questions about the nature of love within the context of power. Ultimately, Antonus becomes a symbol of both beauty and tragedy within Hadrian's storied life.
Queer Identity and Historical Context
Exploring Hadrian and Antonus's relationship within a contemporary framework invites broader discussions about queer identities in historical narratives. The absence of systematic documentation regarding homosexual relationships in ancient Rome highlights the importance of re-examining historical events through inclusive perspectives. As society continues to reclaim queer history, figures like Hadrian offer vital insights into how love, power, and identity intersected in the past. The ongoing fascination with their story exemplifies the need for continued discourse around LGBTQ+ history, paving the way for future generations to understand and celebrate these complex legacies.
Is it toxic for a Roman emperor to steal a child from his home, give him all the riches of the world, groom him, and then maybe ask him to kill himself so that he can live?
That is what we seek to uncover.
The Emperor Hadrian (AD 76 - 138) was one of the not-too-f*cked-up emperors. He liked soldiering but not war, astrology, being gay, hunting, and doing architecture. Trust me, there were a lot worse before him.
But how are we to understand the notorious tale of his beloved Antinous, whom he whisked away from home at the age of 12 to become Premier Boytoy in his imperial retinue?
When Antinous died, Hadrian "wept like a woman." He also started a religion and founded a city in his honor, which means we have hundreds of Antinouses that survive today in marble and stone, from Spain to Syria and beyond.
Join me and my hilarious guest Neil D'Astolfo as we separate the fact from the fiction, and overlay a healthy veneer of frocciagine to the whole thing (not that it needed much seasoning!).
