"The Riff" with Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg

E34: Chamath & Tinder, Threads API, and the Difficulties of Scaling AI Labs

Jun 27, 2024

Chamath Palihapitiya shares a lesser-known story, discussing the index rebalancing trade in finance. The conversation covers AI labs, crypto market aspects, Twitter ideological clustering, and trading strategies based on index inclusions. It also touches on company evolution, hiring, and job opportunities.

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Tech communities like Turpentine offer valuable benefits and networking opportunities for members.

Valuing companies accurately in the market poses challenges due to discrepancies and imperfect information.

Investors leverage index inclusion events to capitalize on short-term stock price movements, understanding the interplay between fundamentals and market dynamics.

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Benefits of Joining the Tech Community

Joining a tech community like Turpentine offers a range of benefits, including access to tactical advice, tech stack wrecks, hiring referrals, in-person events, an investor database, and exclusive perks. The community currently has over 400 members and continues to grow.

Rethinking the Financial System Design

01:08

Investing in High Variance Persons

01:03

Political Leanings and Social Circles

01:11

Efficiency and Imperfect Information in Markets

01:12

Intro

4min

Investor's View on Tinder's Worth and Market Inefficiencies

12min

Analyzing Changes in Taking Growth Companies Public in the US and Twitter Thread Speedrunning

4min

Twitter Ideological Clustering and Threads: A Comparative Analysis

10min

Exploring the Crypto Market and its Self-Referential Nature

3min

Exploring Trading Strategies Based on Index Inclusions

27min

Company Evolution, Hiring, and Job Opportunities

3min

This week, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg discuss a lesser-known Chamath Palihapitiya story, the index rebalancing trade as a postmodern part of finance, AI labs, crypto, and more. beehiiv: Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00:00) About the Show

(00:00:20) Chamath, IAC, and Tinder

(00:16:20) Sponsors: Babbel | Beehiiv

(00:18:54) Chamath continued

(00:18:54) Twitter, Threads

(00:22:40) Twitter, Twitch

(00:24:12) Twitter, API

(00:28:37) Meme coins

(00:32:10) The postmodernity of index rebalancing trades

(00:35:37) S&P 500 inclusion and exclusion

(00:40:52) Crypto, AI, and the Zeitgeist

(00:42:14) Crypto

(00:46:55) AI Labs

(00:49:35) Why is it money intensive and talent intensive?

(00:53:59) What should people study in college?

(00:59:24) Byrne is hiring an associate!

(01:02:13) Outro

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LINKS:

Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co

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