

Make Movies Great Again - N.D. Wilson | #61
Feb 10, 2025
N.D. Wilson, best-selling author of the 100 Cupboards trilogy and creator of Hello Ninja, dives into Hollywood's shifts post-Trump. He critiques the prevalence of mediocrity in film and the challenges of maintaining artistic quality in a profit-driven market. Wilson emphasizes the need for creative ambition and the potential of a free market to revive great art. The conversation touches on the evolving landscape of children's entertainment and the resilience needed in today’s cultural climate, while also hinting at his exciting upcoming projects.
01:15:35
Capitalism and Art
- N.D. Wilson questions if capitalism produces great art or just popular art.
- He ponders what a "cathedral" would be in the film space.
Compelling Films vs. Safe Bets
- Filmmakers used to earn more if their films were compelling.
- Now, studios prioritize safe bets over quality, leading to mediocrity.
Subscription Model's Impact on Quality
- The shift to subscription models prioritizes quantity over quality content.
- This disincentivizes excellence as profitability is capped for producers.
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Intro
00:00 • 2min
Navigating the Film Industry's Challenges
02:12 • 14min
Creative Innovations in Children's Entertainment
16:03 • 11min
Navigating Political Shifts and Cultural Narratives
27:21 • 23min
Exploring Ambition: Science Fiction and Real-World Aspirations
50:27 • 2min
Generational Shifts and Cultural Resilience
52:09 • 17min
Creating Compelling Content in a Challenging Landscape
01:09:00 • 3min
Exciting Future Projects and Creative Energy
01:11:50 • 4min

SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION
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Fifty Shades of Grey
E. L. James
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The Right Stuff
Tom Wolfe
Published in 1979, 'The Right Stuff' by Tom Wolfe is a seminal work of nonfiction that delves into the lives of the pilots and astronauts involved in the U.S. postwar research with experimental rocket-powered aircraft and the early human spaceflight program, Project Mercury. Wolfe's book is based on extensive research, including interviews with test pilots, astronauts, and their families. It focuses on the bravery, machismo, and the unspoken code of 'the right stuff' that defined these individuals. The book contrasts the Mercury Seven astronauts with other test pilots like Chuck Yeager and Scott Crossfield, highlighting their courage, skills, and the risks they undertook. Wolfe's narrative is characterized by its vivid descriptions and use of literary techniques to evoke the era and the people involved in the early days of American space exploration.

Harry Potter
J.K. Rowling
The Harry Potter series, written by J.K. Rowling, follows the journey of Harry Potter, an orphan boy who discovers he is a wizard. The series spans seven novels, each corresponding to one year of Harry's life at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry. Harry, along with his best friends Ron Weasley and Hermione Granger, navigates the magical world, confronts various challenges, and ultimately faces off against the dark wizard Lord Voldemort, who murdered Harry's parents and seeks to dominate the wizarding world. The series explores themes of friendship, love, and the struggle between good and evil.
Death by Living
Death by Living
Life is meant to be spent
N.D. Wilson
In "Death by Living," N.D. Wilson masterfully weaves together profound reflections on life's ephemeral nature with a touch of whimsicality. The book explores the passage of time, particularly the experience of parenthood and the bittersweet joy of watching children grow. Wilson uses evocative imagery and insightful prose to capture the emotional intensity of these moments. He challenges the reader to embrace the present without the anxiety of trying to hold onto fleeting moments. Ultimately, the book offers a message of acceptance and peace in the face of life's inevitable changes.
100 Cupboards
100 Cupboards
Trilogy
N.D. Wilson
The 100 Cupboards is a fantasy novel by N.D. Wilson, the first book in a trilogy. It follows the adventures of siblings who discover a hidden world through a series of mysterious cupboards. The story blends elements of fantasy, mystery, and adventure, appealing to young adult readers. The book explores themes of family, friendship, and courage, with a focus on the importance of faith and perseverance. The series has been translated into multiple languages and has gained popularity for its engaging plot and relatable characters.
Hello Ninja
Hello Ninja
N.D. Wilson

Radical Chic
Tom Wolfe
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The abolition of Britain
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Knives Out
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Ichael Howard
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Jojo Rabbit
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Susan Gray
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Lunatic Farmer
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Notes from the Tilted World
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N.D. Wilson
Wernher von Braun's book on Mars
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Wernher von Braun
Ashtown Burials
Ashtown Burials
Series
N.D. Wilson
Ashtown Burials is a series of novels by N.D. Wilson, known for its blend of mystery, suspense, and Christian themes. The series follows the investigation of a series of mysterious deaths in a small town, exploring themes of faith, justice, and the complexities of human relationships. The books are praised for their engaging plots, well-developed characters, and thought-provoking exploration of moral and spiritual issues. The series has gained a dedicated following among readers who appreciate its unique blend of genres and its exploration of faith in the context of everyday life.
Today, Santiago & Josh interview N.D. Wilson, best-selling author of the 100 Cupboards trilogy and of the nationally acclaimed Ashtown Burials series and creator and producer of the "Hello Ninja" book and Netflix show, to discuss the vibe shift in Hollywood post Trump, the future of Christian media, mediocrity and playing it safe vs. excellence, and much more.
(00:44) Can the film industry be made great again?
(01:21) Is capitalism good for producing great art?
(2:35) The film industry and Democracy suffer from the same issues
(7:00) Films are now Delta Lounge cheese cubes
(9:24) FDR kicked off the death of the film industry
(11:37) What negotiating with Netflix was like
(11:54) Profitability is capped. Hard work will cost you.
(23:56) Mediocrity is crowded. Compete at the top.
(27:06) The fork in the road of 2025
(41:04) “I wish Tom Wolfe was here to see this moment.”
(57:15) How to steward the victory
(1:03:58) The end of the parallel economy?
(1:09:29) His upcoming doc with @JoelSalatin
(1:12:16) Re-release of his Notes & Death By Living
(1:12:50) The fourth Ashtown book Novelist turned filmmaker/producer and varsity basketball coach. He is the best-selling author of the 100 Cupboards trilogy (now in more than twenty languages) and of the nationally acclaimed Ashtown Burials series and the heart-racing western sci-fi Outlaws of Time series. He was the creator and producer of the book and Netflix show HELLO NINJA book & show and he’s one-half of the (almost) weekly STORIES ARE SOUL FOOD podcast. Learn more about N.D. Wilson's work here: https://ndwilson.com https://x.com/ndwilsonmutters ---------- Follow New Founding across Social Media: Twitter – https://twitter.com/newfoundingorg YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClCvCeAC7erMbc3zvuJN2_Q Website – https://www.newfounding.com Find the Best People. Join our Talent Network: https://www.newfounding.com/talent Follow Us on Twitter: Santiago Pliego – https://twitter.com/santspliego Joshua Clemans – https://twitter.com/joshuaclemans The New Founding Podcast is recorded at the New Founding HQ in Dallas, Texas, produced by Santiago Pliego & Joshua Clemans, and edited by Jared Cummings. Subscribe to the "New Founding Podcast" Podbean – https://newfoundingpodcast.podbean.com/ Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-founding-podcast/id1688229934 Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/1lSzo1TIs7MpVlCrzqbpap Google Podcasts - https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkLnBvZGJlYW4uY29tL25ld2ZvdW5kaW5ncG9kY2FzdC9mZWVkLnhtbA?sa=X&ved=0CAMQ4aUDahcKEwiY8sLYno7_AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQNQ
(01:21) Is capitalism good for producing great art?
(2:35) The film industry and Democracy suffer from the same issues
(7:00) Films are now Delta Lounge cheese cubes
(9:24) FDR kicked off the death of the film industry
(11:37) What negotiating with Netflix was like
(11:54) Profitability is capped. Hard work will cost you.
(23:56) Mediocrity is crowded. Compete at the top.
(27:06) The fork in the road of 2025
(41:04) “I wish Tom Wolfe was here to see this moment.”
(57:15) How to steward the victory
(1:03:58) The end of the parallel economy?
(1:09:29) His upcoming doc with @JoelSalatin
(1:12:16) Re-release of his Notes & Death By Living
(1:12:50) The fourth Ashtown book Novelist turned filmmaker/producer and varsity basketball coach. He is the best-selling author of the 100 Cupboards trilogy (now in more than twenty languages) and of the nationally acclaimed Ashtown Burials series and the heart-racing western sci-fi Outlaws of Time series. He was the creator and producer of the book and Netflix show HELLO NINJA book & show and he’s one-half of the (almost) weekly STORIES ARE SOUL FOOD podcast. Learn more about N.D. Wilson's work here: https://ndwilson.com https://x.com/ndwilsonmutters ---------- Follow New Founding across Social Media: Twitter – https://twitter.com/newfoundingorg YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClCvCeAC7erMbc3zvuJN2_Q Website – https://www.newfounding.com Find the Best People. Join our Talent Network: https://www.newfounding.com/talent Follow Us on Twitter: Santiago Pliego – https://twitter.com/santspliego Joshua Clemans – https://twitter.com/joshuaclemans The New Founding Podcast is recorded at the New Founding HQ in Dallas, Texas, produced by Santiago Pliego & Joshua Clemans, and edited by Jared Cummings. Subscribe to the "New Founding Podcast" Podbean – https://newfoundingpodcast.podbean.com/ Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-founding-podcast/id1688229934 Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/1lSzo1TIs7MpVlCrzqbpap Google Podcasts - https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkLnBvZGJlYW4uY29tL25ld2ZvdW5kaW5ncG9kY2FzdC9mZWVkLnhtbA?sa=X&ved=0CAMQ4aUDahcKEwiY8sLYno7_AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQNQ