

19: Zentatsu Richard Baker Roshi And Tatsudo Nicole Baden Roshi - Shifting Perception To Change The World
Jul 15, 2024
Zentatsu Richard Baker Roshi, a leading voice in contemporary Zen and founder of Dharma Sangha, joins his Dharma successor, Tatsudo Nicole Baden Roshi, for a profound dialogue. They explore how perception can shape our experience of existence and emphasize the importance of attentional skills in seeing the world differently. Baker Roshi discusses the connective nature of space, while also reframing emptiness as a simultaneous absence and presence. Their conversation highlights the transformative power of intentional perception and artistic practice.
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Practice As A Craft
- Practice is a craft of attentional skills rather than a set of beliefs.
- Zentatsu Richard Baker Roshi says this shift lets you learn the skills of being alive.
Views Come Before Perception
- Mental views shape perception and come before it.
- Baker Roshi notes language and concepts make us see space as separating rather than connecting.
Here-ness Reframes Emptiness
- If the universe is 'alwaysness' then there is always a 'hereness' and no absolute emptiness.
- Baker Roshi frames hereness as a simultaneous absence and presence that changes how you inhabit existence.