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Apr 1, 2025 • 54min

24: Jeffrey Kripal - Embracing the Impossible: Ontological Shock and the Extraordinary

A lot of what Jeffrey Kripal writes about and explores doesn’t fit into our current worldview. A professor at Rice University, where he holds the J. Newton Rayzor Chair in Philosophy and Religious Thought, Jeff specializes in extreme religious experiences, a new comparativism in the study of religion, the paranormal, and the extraordinary dimensions of human existence. He helped create the groundbreaking GEM Program (Gnosticism, Esotericism, and Mysticism) and serves on the board of the Esalen Institute in Big Sur, California.From UFOs/UAPs to near-death experiences, psi phenomena, and mystical visitations, Jeff’s work challenges us to rethink reality itself. As he puts it, “The paranormal is trying to get our attention. Reality is not what we think it is.” His 13 books, including Authors of the Impossible, Mutants and Mystics, The Flip, How to Think Impossibly, and the upcoming three-volume set The Super Story, invite readers to explore the limits of current-day thought and the vast potential of the unknown.In this conversation, we dive into grief, humor, and the transcendent. Jeff suggests that laughter can help us step outside our worldview, grief can open us to the impossible, and humanity’s tendency to dismiss the extraordinary may actually conceal profound truths. With meaningful observations like “Certainty is a big problem” and “Reality is transcending itself,” Jeff invites us to embrace the mysteries that defy explanation and to see the impossible as a gateway to deeper understanding.Chapters:0:00 Intro: Reality is not what we think5:31 Psychoanalysis and spiritual experiences13:17 John Mack's UFO research at Harvard18:06 The impossible and expanding worldviews24:04 Consciousness: brain vs. perception models29:31 Grief, humor and paranormal experiences36:44 UFOs as a "wedge issue" in science43:17 Historical perspectives on UFO phenomena50:46 Wonder, awe and the "impossible"About Wonderstruck:The Wonderstruck Podcast with Elizabeth Rovere is a deep yet lighthearted exploration of the mystical, metaphysical, transcendent, transformative, esoteric, and ecstatic aspects of human experience. It bridges science, spirituality, and philosophy through engaging conversations with scientists, scholars, experts, and experiencers.In this season of the Wonderstruck Podcast, we delve into the profound mysteries of existence, exploring the depths of human consciousness, spirituality, and the interconnectedness of life. Through engaging conversations with professors, neuroscientists, comedians, healers, poets, psychotherapists, group therapists, philosophers, activists, and authors,we invite listeners to challenge conventional thinking and embrace a multidimensional understanding of reality.Wonderstruck Links:https://wonderstruck.orghttps://www.instagram.com/wonderstruckpod/https://www.youtube.com/@wonderstruckpodhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wonderstruck/id1671879661https://open.spotify.com/show/6fS5boWGwYTShddG7SKlVw Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Mar 25, 2025 • 1h 22min

23: Diane Goldner - I Didn’t Believe in Energy Healing... Until It Worked

What if pain wasn’t just a problem to fix, but a portal to something deeper?Diane Goldner didn’t set out to become a healer. As an investigative journalist writing for The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal, she approached energy healing with the sharp eye of a skeptic, ready to expose what didn’t hold up. But instead, she found something that flipped her world upside down. Today, she’s an internationally recognized healer and medical intuitive, helping people unlock their body’s hidden wisdom in ways the medical field could learn from.In this episode, Diane shares the story of her awakening into the world of subtle energy — and how she now helps others access the hidden intelligence of the body. We talk about the surprising signals our pain carries, what it means to receive shaktipat, and why the boundary between science and mysticism may not be a boundary at all.This is a conversation about seeing differently — about tuning in to what lies just beneath the surface, and discovering that healing might be less about fixing, and more about remembering who we really are.Chapters:0:00 Intro: Reality is more mutable than we realize5:06 Diane's journey from skeptic to energy healer10:27 What is energy healing and subtle energy?15:45 Examples of energy healing in action26:26 How Diane perceives energy during healings32:35 The relationship between science and spirituality38:41 Princeton's research on mind-matter interaction46:44 Why energy healing sometimes doesn't work54:39 The role of love in the healing process1:04:23 Chakras and their role in energy healing1:14:17 Diane's experiences with spiritual figures1:16:25 How changing consciousness changes reality1:20:59 Closing thoughts on imagination and perceptionAbout Wonderstruck:The Wonderstruck Podcast with Elizabeth Rovere is a deep yet lighthearted exploration of the mystical, metaphysical, transcendent, transformative, esoteric, and ecstatic aspects of human experience. It bridges science, spirituality, and philosophy through engaging conversations with scientists, scholars, experts, and experiencers.In this season of the Wonderstruck Podcast, we delve into the profound mysteries of existence, exploring the depths of human consciousness, spirituality, and the interconnectedness of life. Through engaging conversations with professors, neuroscientists, comedians, healers, poets, psychotherapists, group therapists, philosophers, activists, and authors,we invite listeners to challenge conventional thinking and embrace a multidimensional understanding of reality.Wonderstruck Links:https://wonderstruck.orghttps://www.instagram.com/wonderstruckpod/https://www.youtube.com/@wonderstruckpodhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wonderstruck/id1671879661https://open.spotify.com/show/6fS5boWGwYTShddG7SKlVwDiane's Books:https://www.amazon.com/stores/Diane-Goldner/author/B001K8F9G6 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Mar 18, 2025 • 50min

22: Dr. Iain McGilchrist and John Cleese - Laughter is the Heart of Life

Join John Cleese, the legendary comedian behind Monty Python, and Dr. Iain McGilchrist, a noted psychiatrist and philosopher, as they dive into the joys of humor and consciousness. Cleese reveals how comedy can topple hierarchies and sharpen perceptions, while McGilchrist discusses the brain's hemispheric roles in creativity and emotional responses. They explore laughter's role in mental health, unity, and resilience, emphasizing how humor allows us to view the world with fresh perspectives. As Cleese questions the cosmic fabric of humor, they invite listeners to embrace spontaneity in life.
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Mar 11, 2025 • 53min

21: Dr. Àlex Gómez-Marín - Tuning into the Edges of Consciousness

A lot of what Dr. Alex Gomez-Marin explores challenges the boundaries of traditional science. A physicist and neuroscientist, Alex leads the Behavior of Organisms Laboratory at the Instituto de Neurociencias in Alicante, Spain, and serves as the director of the Pari Center in Italy. His groundbreaking work spans neuroscience, physics, and the study of consciousness, with a focus on what he calls “the edges of consciousness.”In this episode, Elizabeth joins Alex for a mind-expanding conversation about the limits of science as it’s traditionally understood. As Alex highlights, “What is funded is what gets studied,” meaning that the edges of consciousness are often dismissed as fringe and ignored by mainstream science. But materialism is not the only game in town—"science is far more than materialism and reductionism."From his transformative Near-Death Experience (NDE) to his pioneering research on phenomena beyond the five senses, Alex bridges science, spirituality, and the humanities. He explains the receiver model of consciousness, which suggests that the brain functions more like an antenna than a generator, and explores phenomena such as remote viewing and telepathy, pushing the boundaries of what mainstream science considers possible.Together, they discuss Alex's neuroscience research on blind individuals who “see” with their hearts called E.O.V., telepathy as the blending of thought and knowing, and the concept of reality as an evolving perception. Alex’s unique perspective invites us to question everything and embrace the unknown, reminding us that the cracks in the matrix may reveal that reality is far richer than we ever imagined.Chapters:0:00 Intro: Near-death experience and neuroscience5:07 The Pari Center and exploring consciousness10:04 Sharing a profound near-death experience16:59 Science beyond materialism and reductionism28:24 Different philosophical approaches to consciousness34:44 The need for listening in scientific discourse40:50 Studying extraocular vision scientifically47:40 Using science to validate extraordinary experiences51:52 Outro: Exploring the edges of consciousnessAbout Wonderstruck:The Wonderstruck Podcast with Elizabeth Rovere is a deep yet lighthearted exploration of the mystical, metaphysical, transcendent, transformative, esoteric, and ecstatic aspects of human experience. It bridges science, spirituality, and philosophy through engaging conversations with scientists, scholars, experts, and experiencers.In this season of the Wonderstruck Podcast, we delve into the profound mysteries of existence, exploring the depths of human consciousness, spirituality, and the interconnectedness of life. Through engaging conversations with professors, neuroscientists, comedians, healers, poets, psychotherapists, group therapists, philosophers, activists, and authors,we invite listeners to challenge conventional thinking and embrace a multidimensional understanding of reality.Wonderstruck Links:https://wonderstruck.orghttps://www.instagram.com/wonderstruckpod/https://www.youtube.com/@wonderstruckpodhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wonderstruck/id1671879661https://open.spotify.com/show/6fS5boWGwYTShddG7SKlVw Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Mar 1, 2025 • 42min

20: Vandana Shiva - From Soil to Soul: "We are not separate from nature; we are nature."

Vandana Shiva is not just an activist, she is a visionary, a force of nature, and a firebrand for a world in crisis. She doesn’t merely challenge the mechanistic view of life; she dismantles it with the precision of a physicist and the passion of a poet. In its place, she offers something far more powerful: a universe alive with intelligence, diversity, and self-organization. This is a cosmos where everything pulses with meaning.A scientist and warrior for the Earth, Vandana bridges worlds that many see as separate such as quantum physics and ancient wisdom, or science and spirit. Her message is meaningful: matter is not inert; it is consciousness in motion. From the sacred cycle of soil, food, and humanity to the concepts of autopoiesis, and symbiosis she reveals the elegant, often invisible web that connects us all.She warns against the dangerous illusion that nature is a machine to be manipulated. In reality, the Earth is a living system, responsive and intelligent, and when we exploit it as if it were lifeless, we create imbalance, and what she calls the metabolic disorder of Gaia. Climate change, in her view, is not just an environmental crisis, rather, it is a profound disruption of life’s symphony, a call to return to harmony before it is too late.But Vandana is not here to preach despair; she is here to ignite transformation. She speaks of joy as an act of resistance, humility as the gateway to true wisdom, and creativity as the very essence of life. The same Shakti, the regenerative power that makes trees grow, rivers flow, and galaxies spin, exists within us, and is inexhaustible and eternal.In this conversation, Vandana invites us to awaken not just to the urgency of the moment but to the deeper truth of our existence. We are not separate from nature; we are nature. And when we embrace this reality, we don’t just sustain the world, we help it flourish. With unwavering courage, wisdom, and love, she calls us to step into a regenerative future, where we become stewards, co-creators, and protectors of the great, living Earth that carries us all.Chapters:0:00 Intro: Quantum physics and healing the planet5:49 Living in consciousness vs. mechanistic thinking11:00 Principles of quantum thinking in everyday life16:19 Earth University: Nature as the teacher22:25 Seed freedom and biodiversity preservation28:01 Finding joy in interconnection and service33:12 Humility and elevated consciousness36:43 Quantum physics and divinity40:51 Story of women's strength from natureAbout Wonderstruck:The Wonderstruck Podcast with Elizabeth Rovere is a deep yet lighthearted exploration of the mystical, metaphysical, transcendent, transformative, esoteric, and ecstatic aspects of human experience. It bridges science, spirituality, and philosophy through engaging conversations with scientists, scholars, experts, and experiencers.In this season of the Wonderstruck Podcast, we delve into the profound mysteries of existence, exploring the depths of human consciousness, spirituality, and the interconnectedness of life. Through engaging conversations with professors, neuroscientists, comedians, healers, poets, psychotherapists, group therapists, philosophers, activists, and authors,we invite listeners to challenge conventional thinking and embrace a multidimensional understanding of reality.Wonderstruck Links:https://wonderstruck.orghttps://www.instagram.com/wonderstruckpod/https://www.youtube.com/@wonderstruckpodhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wonderstruck/id1671879661https://open.spotify.com/show/6fS5boWGwYTShddG7SKlVw Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Jul 15, 2024 • 12min

19: Zentatsu Richard Baker Roshi And Tatsudo Nicole Baden Roshi - Shifting Perception To Change The World

For Wonderstruck's Season 2 finale, host Elizabeth Rovere introduces a special conversation between Zentatsu Richard Baker Roshi, one of Zen's leading voices, and his Dharma Successor and Dharma Sangha colleague Tatsudo Nicole Baden Roshi. The mentor-protégé duo display their compassion and respect for one another while introducing vital ideas about navigating existence, seeking connection, and recalibrating perception.https://wonderstruck.orghttps://www.instagram.com/wonderstruckpod/https://www.youtube.com/@wonderstruckpodhttps://www.facebook.com/wonderstruckpodhttps://www.dharma-sangha.dehttps://www.dharmasangha.orghttps://www.instagram.com/zendharmasangha/?hl=enhttps://www.instagram.com/crestonemountainzen/https://www.facebook.com/zendharmasanghahttps://www.facebook.com/dharmasanghacrestone Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Jun 17, 2024 • 1h 7min

18: Robert Peng - The Making Of A Qigong Master

Healer, author and world-renowned qigong master Robert Peng traces his singular journey and shares stories about the teacher that changed his life. Recovering from a childhood illness during the Chinese Cultural Revolution, Peng started apprenticing with a legendary monk named Xiao Yao. Having witnessed and learned from his master’s extraordinary, and seemingly supernatural powers, Peng himself developed his own remarkable capabilities, feats of strength and healing which many would consider impossible. He did it, he says, by cultivating his qi. In a revealing conversation recorded last summer at Wonderstruck’s Symposium on Wisdom and Pedagogy in Guainville, France, host Elizabeth Rovere sat down with Peng to explore what qi really is, what it has to do with the energy centers of Chinese Medicine, and how we can cultivate our own. https://wonderstruck.orghttps://www.instagram.com/wonderstruckpod/https://www.youtube.com/@wonderstruckpodhttps://www.facebook.com/wonderstruckpodhttps://www.robertpeng.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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May 27, 2024 • 41min

17: Emma Mumford - Surrendering Into Serenity And Manifestation

Emma Mumford is the best-selling author of Hurt, Healing, Healed, and Spiritual Queen, and host of Spiritual Queen’s Badass Podcast. There, she covers topics like manifestation, out of body experiences, The Law of Attraction and processing trauma. Emma’s own spiritual awakening came as a surprise. She had found professional success after years of personal struggle, becoming a popular couponing advocate and presenter in the UK. Nevertheless, she still suffered from depression and anxiety. A moment of surrender changed Emma’s life. “I remember looking out the window and saying, ‘Universe, help me.’ And that was it,” Emma tells Wonderstruck’s Elizabeth Rovere. As Emma let go of control and led more from her heart, she opened up to newfound teachings, therapy, and self-help tools. She began tapping into deep personal wells of agency and creativity, working through childhood trauma, developing her intuition and, ultimately, drawing upon her learnings to help others find happiness. “When you find yourself in the trenches of life,” Emma says. “There is a purpose to that. You may not know it at that time, you may not know what abundance or happiness or joy awaits you." https://wonderstruck.orghttps://www.instagram.com/wonderstruckpod/https://www.youtube.com/@wonderstruckpodhttps://www.facebook.com/wonderstruckpodhttps://emmamumford.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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May 13, 2024 • 1h 16min

16: William Robert - Confronting Tragedy, Confronting Ourselves

What do you want? Who are you bound to? Who are you, really? And what will you do when faced with difficult decisions? These are some of the questions at the heart of religion and tragedy, dramas about extreme situations, impossible choices, and their consequences. William Robert, a professor of religion at Syracuse University, studies religion by studying tragedies, since both ask the same kinds of big questions about being human: questions about love and connection, about purpose and passion, about morality and mortality. And they’re persistent questions that don’t have final answers. In performance-based classes and workshops, and in print, William uses tragic dramas to rethink how religion works, what it does, and why it matters. His most recent book, Unbridled: Studying Religion in Performance, won the American Academy of Religion’s Religion and the Arts Book Award. On this episode of Wonderstruck, William and host Elizabeth Rovere discuss performance and pedagogy as practices of wonder that generate learning. Using teaching methods that draw upon embodied participation, earnest curiosity, props and disarming playfulness, William breaks down the barriers of academia to reach new and transformative conclusions. "When we're using our bodies, we are inevitably thinking and feeling together," he says. "The intellectual and the affective and the corporeal dimensions are all mixed together. And that's much more powerful than just the intellect."https://wonderstruck.orghttps://www.instagram.com/wonderstruckpod/https://www.youtube.com/@wonderstruckpodhttps://www.facebook.com/wonderstruckpodhttps://artsandsciences.syracuse.edu/people/faculty/robert-william/https://artsandsciences.syracuse.edu/news-all/news-2024/william-robert-wins-american-academy-of-religion-book-award/https://a.co/d/3xYgkQEhttps://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/U/bo128919176.html Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Apr 29, 2024 • 1h 12min

15: Dr. Sue Morter - Awaken To The Truth Of Who You Are

Seeking relief from her migraine headaches, Dr. Sue Morter turned to meditation. As a new meditator, 24 years ago, she sat down to meditate as part of a group. As she followed along chanting a mantra, her mind was stilled and she was instantaneously transported into a higher state of consciousness, that she explains "was completely altered from where we operate on a daily basis." Dr. Sue shares with Wonderderstruck's Elizabeth Rovere, "I could see 360 degrees...I could see in every direction simultaneously...I was a ray of light. And I had always been there. I knew instantly that this was the truth of who I was. " Her life's work has evolved from this formative moment and the multi-dimensional experiences and understandings she continues to access as she works to embody this greater truth of who we are, teaching it and sharing it with others through her Energy Codes coursework, BodyAwake Yoga, Spiritual B.E.S.T. (Bio Energetic Synchronization Technique) and as a best-selling author. Dr. Sue is a transformational leader, teaching us how we're contributing to the expansion of human consciousness as "we're waking to the truth of why we're here and what we're capable of."https://wonderstruck.orghttps://www.instagram.com/wonderstruckpod/https://www.youtube.com/@wonderstruckpodhttps://www.facebook.com/wonderstruckpodhttps://drsuemorter.comhttps://www.facebook.com/DrSueMorterhttps://www.instagram.com/DrSueMorter/https://www.youtube.com/@DrSueMorterhttps://nt113.isrefer.com/go/HYHYLEbook/ElizabethRovere/https://nt113.isrefer.com/go/HYHYLMed/ElizabethRovere/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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