
The Divine Council Worldview Podcast EP122: Sleep Paralysis, Ritual Abuse, AI, and the Spiritual Realm
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Aug 16, 2026 Natalie Atwell, clinical psychologist and author focused on trauma and the unseen realm, offers a clinical and spiritual lens on strange experiences. She covers sleep paralysis, dissociation, ritual abuse, psychedelic harm, deception, and how worldview shapes assessment. They also tackle AI replacing care and patterns behind abduction reports. The conversation stays focused on recognition, assessment, and hope.
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Ketamine Session Described As Diving Into Hell
- A client who underwent ketamine-assisted therapy told Natalie she felt like she was literally diving into hell and was traumatized by the session.
- The clinic offered little processing, so she sought Natalie to help unpack the dark spiritual content.
Divine Council Enlarged Spiritual Warfare Lens
- The divine council worldview expanded Natalie's scriptural view of spiritual warfare beyond a simplistic Satan-vs-God model to include cultural systems and deception.
- She ties societal oppression and false ideologies to spiritual hostile influences affecting mental health.
Start With Comprehensive Assessment First
- Begin with comprehensive assessment to distinguish ordinary temptation from spiritual oppression or unexplained phenomena.
- Ask about practices, childhood rituals, and trauma before concluding a spiritual cause or jumping to deliverance.


