

6: David and Goliath
12 snips Apr 8, 2025
Caleb E. Campbell, a pastor and author, dives into the rising influence of white Christian nationalism under the Trump administration. He discusses how evangelical resistors are uniting with pro-democracy allies, challenging extremism within their faith communities. The conversation highlights the value of pluralism in fostering inclusivity and compassion in churches. They also explore the necessity of diverse leadership in building sustainable pro-democracy movements that engage varied ideological beliefs to combat extremism and support marginalized groups.
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Caleb Campbell's Post-Election Experience
- Pastor Caleb Campbell felt the pain of the 2016 election resurface in 2020.
- He finds pastoring during elections increasingly difficult due to the diverse feelings of his congregation.
God's Role in Trump's Presidency
- Some believe God chose Trump, prioritizing faith over the electoral process.
- This poses a threat to democracy, as some pronouncements at AmericaFest suggest Trump "trumps democracy."
Long-Term Change
- Despite 85% of white evangelicals voting for Trump, Caleb Campbell and Knapp Nasworth focus on long-term change.
- They believe changing hearts and minds about Christian nationalism will take a generation.