When The Wolves Came

4: Fight or Flight

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Mar 25, 2025
Caleb E. Campbell, Pastor at Desert Springs Bible Church and author of 'Disarming Leviathan,' shares insights on confronting extremism in the church. He discusses whether to sever ties or engage with those holding controversial views. The conversation delves into the challenges of navigating broken relationships post-pandemic and the intersection of faith and politics, particularly after the January 6 insurrection. With a focus on empathy and dialogue, Campbell offers strategies for engaging with American Christian nationalists and promoting understanding within evangelical communities.
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ANECDOTE

Exodus from Desert Springs

  • Desert Springs Bible Church members left after disagreements on COVID and race.
  • This led to a sense of loss and mourning among remaining members like Nathan Whitchurch.
INSIGHT

Pastoral Pressure

  • Evangelical pastors face immense political pressure due to their reliance on congregations.
  • Many fear losing their jobs and communities if they speak out against political issues.
ANECDOTE

Jared's Journey

  • Jared Stacey, a theologian, grew up in a fundamentalist community and attended Liberty University.
  • His experience pastoring in New Orleans exposed him to different political and racial perspectives.
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