In this episode, Pip interviews Jordan from Flip Flop Firefighter, a firefighter-owned apparel business. They discuss Jordan's journey as a firefighter and how he started his own business. They also talk about the importance of off-duty bonding and mental health in the fire service. The conversation touches on topics such as the different phases of t-shirt wearing as a firefighter, the challenges of being off-duty, and the need for stress relief. They also share personal stories of responding to emergencies and the importance of self-reflection in the fire service. Jordan, the Flip Flop Firefighter, discusses the different designs and themes of his apparel business. He talks about the inspiration behind each design, such as catching sunsets and golfing, and how he collaborates with his graphic designer to bring his vision to life. Jordan also shares his approach to running the business, including engaging with customers and hosting giveaways. He emphasizes the importance of balancing work and family life and the challenges of transitioning from being a firefighter to a business owner. Jordan emphasizes the importance of dedicating time to family and the growing years, while also pursuing his passion for entrepreneurship. He shares his experiences of working with an amazing crew and the camaraderie they have. Jordan also discusses his plans for expanding his business and creating new designs. Overall, the conversation highlights the dedication, hard work, and passion that Jordan brings to both his firefighting career and his business. Causing you to ask yourself the question. What’s My Size Up??? Because, what you do off the job, MATTERS!!!