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Johnathan Bi on Mimesis and René Girard

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Nov 21, 2022
Join Johnathan Bi, an entrepreneur and philosopher with a math and computer science background, as he dives into René Girard's mimetic theory. He discusses how our desires are shaped by imitation and the quest for authenticity in a socially influenced world. Bi critiques modern views on desire, reflecting on body image ideals and the philosophical underpinnings of social existence. The conversation also delves into the limitations of traditional economics, examining how values and identity influence decision-making and the intricate relationship between trade and peace.
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ANECDOTE

Startup Crash and Self-Debugging

  • Jonathan Bi's startup failed, leading him to a Zen retreat.
  • He sought to "debug himself" like an application, turning to philosophy.
INSIGHT

Mimetic Theory and Human Behavior

  • Humans initially learn by copying, starting from infancy.
  • Girard suggests imitation goes beyond basic learning and significantly drives human behavior.
INSIGHT

Two Types of Desire

  • Girard distinguishes between physical desires (for utility) and metaphysical desires (for identity).
  • Metaphysical desires drive us to associate with objects linked to admired models.
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