How is it that joy and pain seem to coexist at once? Susan Cain (author of the bestseller Quiet) explores this question in her new book, Bittersweet.

In this conversation, Kate and Susan discuss:

How we are literally hardwired for compassion
Susan’s advice for pushing back against compassion fatigue
How that feeling of longing isn’t something to be ashamed of but allows us to see things clearly—the beautiful and the terrible

If you ever feel like you didn’t have a word for the sweetness of longings (and why your compassionate heart is a gift), this conversation is for you.

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Susan Cain: Survival of the Kindest