The hosts dive into a whirlwind of high-profile failures, from Coppola's costly flop "Megalopolis" to Kamala Harris's political missteps. They explore the fickle nature of celebrity fame and how social media affects success perceptions. Discussions about artistic flops reveal how failures can spark cultural dialogues and fan reactions while also highlighting the emotional turmoil artists face. The conversation embraces the idea that failure may lead to creativity and growth, turning disappointments into transformative opportunities.
The podcast discusses how high-profile cultural and political flops reveal significant insights about audience expectations and engagement dynamics.
Despite their negative perceptions, flops can encourage artistic growth and resilience, offering creators valuable lessons for future endeavors.
Deep dives
Defining the Flop
A flop is characterized by having high expectations yet failing to deliver on them, creating a public spectacle of disappointment. The discussion highlights the distinction between a flop and a mere fizzle, with the former representing grand expectations that ultimately lead to failure. For example, the launch of the green energy enterprise in the HBO series 'Industry' serves as an illustration of such a flop, as it generated anticipation but ultimately fell flat. This notion of a flop intertwines with the cultural fabric of societal responses to art and media, emphasizing its impact beyond just the creators involved.
Spectacles of Failure in Culture
Throughout the year, notable flops arose in various cultural spheres, reflecting unmet expectations and dashed hopes. Political disappointments, particularly in the context of the Democrats’ election performance, are cited as significant failures that garnered public attention. The expectation around the potential for a new political hero contrasted sharply with the ultimate outcome, embodying the concept of flops in the political arena. The conversation invites listeners to consider the broader implications of these flops, questioning what these failures reveal about audience engagement and political dynamics.
Celebrity and Cultural Missteps
Celebrities like Katy Perry have faced substantial backlash for perceived missteps that resonate with audiences, leading to discussions about the nature of flops in the realm of pop culture. Perry's recent release, 'Women's World', was criticized for its tone-deaf approach to female empowerment, highlighting a disconnect with current cultural sentiments. While some may argue that artistic risk-taking can yield great success, in this instance, it came off as a notable failure and sparked widespread schadenfreude among audiences. This example illustrates that how the public perceives these flops can foster a culture of critique and entertainment surrounding celebrity endeavors.
The Silver Linings of Flops
Flops, while often viewed negatively, can also produce unexpected benefits and forces for growth within the creative process. The resilience required to overcome a flop can foster artistic flexibility, prompting creators to reassess and innovate beyond their setbacks. The historical reference to 'Moby Dick', initially considered a flop but later celebrated as a classic, exemplifies how initial failures can transform into overlooked masterpieces over time. Ultimately, the ability to recover from a flop and learn from it is presented as an integral part of the artistic journey, inviting a more nuanced understanding of failure in creative endeavors.
This year, high-profile failures abounded. Take, for example, Francis Ford Coppola’s passion project “Megalopolis,” which cost a hundred and forty million dollars to make—and brought in less than ten per cent of that at the box office. And what was Kamala Harris’s loss to Donald Trump but a fiasco of the highest order? On this episode of Critics at Large, recorded live at Condé Nast’s offices at One World Trade Center, Vinson Cunningham, Naomi Fry, and Alexandra Schwartz pronounce 2024 “the year of the flop,” and draw on a range of recent examples—from the Yankees’ disappointing performance at the World Series to Katy Perry’s near-universally mocked music video for “Woman’s World”—to anatomize the phenomenon. What are the constituent parts of a flop, and what might these missteps reveal about the relationship between audiences and public figures today? The hosts also consider the surprising upsides to such categorical failures. “In some ways, always succeeding for an artist is a problem . . . because I think you retain fear,” Schwartz says. “If you can get through it, there really can be something on the other side.”