Lean is all the rage in hop-forward West Coast–style beers, from pilsner to IPA, and paring beers back to their bare necessities has been a significant focus for Burgeon’s Anthony Tallman. Yet the quest for crisp-and-drinkable doesn’t mean sacrificing flavor, and recent experimentation has given Tallman a fresh perspective on the ultra-minimal approach.

In this episode—which is focused especially on Carlsbad Crush, winner of multuple GABF medials in the International-Style Pale Ale category—Tallman discusses what has and has not worked with their clear hop-forward beers, including:

the impacts of various pilsner malts on pale ales, IPAs, and lagers
shortening and lengthening boil times for certain beers
achieving significant measured IBUs in a beer with no hot-side hops
inadvertently making a would-be hazy IPA drop clear via knockout dry hopping
watering back to lower whirlpool temperatures
varying techniques based on the hops in a recipe
focusing on hot-side hops for increased package longevity
finding balance in lower-ABV West Coast pils

And more.

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