151 - MEV for Public Goods Funding with Nikete Della Penna
Sep 21, 2023
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Nikete Della Penna, a mechanism designer, discusses MEV and its potential for supporting public goods. They explore redirecting MEV from financialized interests, the concept of MEB and MEV, frontiers of MEB research, extracting value in decentralized systems, debating precedent and neutrality, and the role of markets as collective intelligence.
MEV can be harnessed to fund public goods and generate welfare-enhancing measures in the network, striking a balance between incentivizing intermediaries and promoting the network's overall welfare.
Research explores opportunities to constrain intermediaries in low-latency systems and strike a balance between minimizing value extraction and providing welfare-enhancing measures, aiming to incentivize intermediaries to engage in valuable activities while preventing excessive extraction that hampers the network's well-being.
Deep dives
MEV and its Power to Support Public Good
MEV, or minor extractable value, allows miners in a distributed system to extract value by being in a privileged position to create, censor, and reorder transactions. While some argue for minimizing MEV due to its extraction of value, others recognize that intermediaries need incentives to carry out their crucial role. MEV can be harnessed to fund public goods and generate welfare-enhancing measures in the network. The debate lies in determining how to allocate the value extracted from MEV, whether through burning or supporting public goods, to strike a balance between incentivizing intermediaries and promoting the network's overall welfare.
The Frontier of MEV Research
MEV research is focused on minimizing value extraction by intermediaries while providing sufficient incentives for their involvement. Efficiency tends to favor eliminating competition, while robustness, incentive compatibility, and decentralization require duplication and competition among network participants. Research explores opportunities to constrain intermediaries in low-latency systems and strike a balance between minimizing value extraction and providing welfare-enhancing measures. The challenge lies in finding ways to incentivize intermediaries to engage in valuable activities while preventing excessive extraction that hampers the network's well-being.
The Debate Over MEV Allocation
The allocation of MEV value has sparked debate within the Ethereum community. Some argue for burning MEV, as it redistributes value directly to Ethers holders and maintains protocol neutrality. Others advocate for using MEV to fund public goods beyond Ethereum itself, believing it promotes a more welfare-maximizing approach. The L2 solution presents an opportunity for experimentation, where different camps can explore how to distribute MEV value, considering the verifiability of public goods and the level of decentralization desired. Balancing credible neutrality, incentives, and reward mechanisms remains a crucial consideration in this ongoing debate.
Markets as Collective Intelligence and Advancing Humanity
Market systems are viewed as a form of collective intelligence that has evolved over time. Decentralized markets like Ethereum provide a richer computational substrate enabling more nuanced and multi-dimensional representations of value. By expanding beyond a single numerical parameter, such markets allow for more diverse and sophisticated mechanisms that consider multiple dimensions of value and match participants based on various factors. This expansion of markets and value representation not only advances the potential of public goods allocation but also enhances the resilience and legitimacy of the Web3 ecosystem as a whole.
----- How can we leverage MEV for Public Goods Funding?
Joining the podcast today is Nikete Della Penna, a formally trained (PhD) mechanism designer with a PhD on the intersection of economics and machine learning. We get into the depths of MEV with an extensive debate on how it should be leveraged. We also cover Markets as a Collective Intelligence.
0:00 Intro 2:20 What is MEV? 5:56 The MEV Research Frontier 11:44 The MEV Debate 30:31 The Role of L2s 38:33 Markets as a Collective Intelligence 47:28 Closing Thoughts
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