The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Reframing America's race problem

Mar 11, 2021
Heather McGhee, former president of the think tank Demos and author of "The Sum of Us," delves into the pervasive costs of racism in America for everyone involved. She challenges the zero-sum mentality that progress for one group requires the sacrifice of another. By citing historical examples, like the segregation of public pools, she illustrates the long-lasting impacts of exclusionary practices. McGhee urges a reframing of the race conversation, advocating for solidarity, inclusive storytelling, and a recognition of shared losses to foster unity and collective progress.
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INSIGHT

Self-Destructive Tantrum

  • Closing public pools demonstrates a self-destructive political tantrum driven by racist beliefs.
  • These beliefs about deservingness persist and affect opinions on economic policies.
INSIGHT

Lack of "Nice Things"

  • The US lacks universal healthcare, reliable infrastructure, and a well-funded public education system.
  • These failures are attributed to the acceptance of the zero-sum paradigm.
ANECDOTE

Limits of Research

  • Heather McGhee realized data alone wouldn't overcome racial biases when lobbying against a bankruptcy bill.
  • She overheard a Senator blaming "deadbeats" for bankruptcy, revealing underlying racial stereotypes.
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