Fear of the Unknown + Fever Dreams

In this episode of Business Brain, Dave Hamilton and Shannon Jean kick off with a candid conversation about Dave’s recent illness, which includes an unexplained fever and persistent headache. Despite being under the weather, Dave emphasizes the importance of consistency and leadership, especially when managing a growing business. He discusses the challenges of maintaining productivity while sick, using tools like Loom to create SOPs and keep his team aligned as they evolve internal systems at Backbeat.

The hosts also explore the topic of decision-making and fear in business. They stress the value of empowering employees to act independently, even if the decisions aren’t perfect, and highlight the power of curiosity to overcome fear. Shannon shares how reframing risk-taking as experimentation helps mitigate fear of the unknown, and recounts how a failed software venture taught him valuable lessons that led to writing a successful book.

Finally, they reflect on the psychological differences between fear of failure and fear of being perceived as a failure. They encourage listeners to embrace action, share their own fears and insights, and participate in the community through reviews and feedback. The episode blends vulnerability, leadership strategy, and personal growth, all with their signature enthusiasm.

• 00:00:00 Business Brain – The Entrepreneurs’ Podcast #662 for Wednesday, July 2nd, 2025
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• 00:01:35 Fever Dreams and Your Business
  • Loom to train *and* create SOPs
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• 00:14:53 Managing Fear
  • The main source of fear is the fear of the unknown
  • Will this work? Feed your curiosity.
  • “Failure gives you data, fear gives you excuses.”
• 00:20:19 Fear of failure or fear of being a failure?
• 00:21:26 Business Brain 662 Outtro
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