38. Theresa May: Windrush, police, and the cult of personality (Part 1)
Oct 1, 2023
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Former Conservative Prime Minister Theresa May discusses her regrets as Home Secretary, abuse of power in the United Kingdom, including the Hillsborough disaster and Windrush scandal, the influence of media, and the importance of public service.
The role of a constituency MP is crucial in resolving individual cases and improving the lives of the people they represent.
Female politicians face stereotypes and double standards, but should pursue their passion for positive change.
Trust in the civil service is vital as they provide the best advice for elected politicians to make informed decisions.
Deep dives
Importance of Public Service and Constituency Work
Theresa May emphasizes the fundamental importance of public service and being a constituency Member of Parliament (MP). She highlights the role of a constituency MP in making a difference in individual cases, such as unblocking government systems and resolving housing issues. She also notes the contribution MPs can make to broader issues in their constituencies, such as improving the lives of the people they represent. Despite frustrations in opposition, May believes that the political system itself does not need to be fundamentally transformed, but rather the attitudes of individuals within the system, with a call for more diverse experiences and backgrounds among MPs.
Challenges and Perceptions of Female Politicians
May discusses the challenges and perceptions female politicians face. She notes the stereotypes and double standards that exist, where women are criticized if they exhibit strength or emotions. She shares her experiences during the Brexit debates, where some male colleagues expected her to be more aggressive and macho, rather than focusing on painful negotiations. Despite these challenges, May encourages young women interested in politics to pursue their passion, as being an MP allows them to make a positive difference in people's lives.
Importance of Trust in the Civil Service
May reaffirms her belief in the importance of trust in the civil service and highlights its role as a fundamental pillar of democracy. She credits civil servants with providing the best advice and information, which elected politicians use to make decisions. May acknowledges that while disagreements between politicians and civil servants may occur due to differing perspectives, it is crucial to recognize the civil service's commitment to public service and their aim to provide the best possible advice.
The Windrush Scandal and Fairness in Immigration
May reflects on the Windrush scandal and the need for fairness in immigration policies. She acknowledges that this group of people, who were legally invited to the UK but lacked proper documentation, were caught up in changing immigration rules and faced challenges in proving their legal status. May expresses remorse for the unintended consequences and stresses the importance of learning from such incidents to ensure fair treatment for legal immigrants.
The Vocation of Being a Constituency MP
May shares her perspective on the vocation of being a constituency MP. She highlights the fundamental role of serving constituents, making a positive difference in their lives, and having a grassroots connection with the community. May emphasizes the significance of being able to hear constituents' concerns, understand the impact of decisions made in Westminster, and balance the needs of both individual constituents and wider policy issues.
What is Theresa May’s biggest regret from her time as Home Secretary? Why was the Hillsborough disaster such an abuse of power? What’s it like to stay on as an MP after occupying the highest office in the land?
On today’s episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by former Conservative Prime Minister, Theresa May.
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